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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 01:07 AM   #46
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You're basing this on:
A black woman cannot use it against her ex
A white woman cannot use it against her ex
It's been raised as a defense in the killings of two black youths with no decision yet.
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I have no idea what you're referring to.

My post was as clear as I could possibly make it.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 01:15 AM   #47
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If the guy he shot was white, Asian or hispanic this would not even have made the news and no one here would have posted an article if it had
This post serves as an example of how people view these incidents. Especially when they have absolutely no understanding of race relations, the inequality of the law in America, and cultural history over the centuries in the U.S.

I'll just leave it at that because experience dictates that no amount of conversation, debate, nor examples, will ever alter the perception and understanding of people who what you believe.

It's sad but true.
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SN: are there any free databases where you have access to US Case law?? I'm interested in looking up the cases where this law was used and the outcomes, but of course the only databases i have paid access to are UK and C'bean
http://answers.justia.com
http://public.findlaw.com
http://www.law.cornell.edu/lii/get_the_law

I hope the above are helpful in general.
(Westlaw.com is the most authoritative, but is a paid service)

Regarding this case, Dunn having fled and not then gone to the police seems rather incriminating. Of course Zimmerman didn't have that option, having called the Sanford PD to "report" Trayvon Martin just B4 that shooting.
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This post serves as an example of how people view these incidents. Especially when they have absolutely no understanding of race relations, the inequality of the law in America, and cultural history over the centuries in the U.S.

I'll just leave it at that because experience dictates that no amount of conversation, debate, nor examples, will ever alter the perception and understanding of people who what you believe.

It's sad but true.
Get off your high horse.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 10:08 AM   #50
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http://answers.justia.com
http://public.findlaw.com
http://www.law.cornell.edu/lii/get_the_law

I hope the above are helpful in general.
(Westlaw.com is the most authoritative, but is a paid service)

Regarding this case, Dunn having fled and not then gone to the police seems rather incriminating. Of course Zimmerman didn't have that option, having called the Sanford PD to "report" Trayvon Martin just B4 that shooting.
oops my westlaw is uk but i'll bk mark these sites thanks
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #51
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Get off your high horse.
When you're ignorant, everything appears that way no matter where you stand.

Kindly do yourself a favor and educate yourself.
That is, if you actually care about this issue.
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Re: Here we go again: Florida teen killed in dispute over loud music

I wonder what the advocates of MORE gun carrying think about this incident.

Just imagine, if they ALL had guns

Really, they need to make a TV drama on this subject, say like 'Westworld' by Crichton, realized in real-life?

I see that some here are even proposing that; Blacks to have more access to guns. Peculiar notion of 'equality'
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When you're ignorant, everything appears that way no matter where you stand.
You're right. I feel sorry for you.
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You're right. I feel sorry for you.
I'm sorry, but I don't speak 'Idiot'. I'll have to consult a translator and get back to you.

Or not.

You just hit a 3-post limit that I allot to losers like yourself.
So tata.
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Re: Here we go again: Florida teen killed in dispute over loud music

that gun law must be given a rethought and revoked immediately......that is currently the stupidest law in the world......burning fire crackers is considered a bigger offense than carrying guns......somebody explain me how it even makes sense......
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that gun law must be given a rethought and revoked immediately......that is currently the stupidest law in the world......burning fire crackers is considered a bigger offense than carrying guns......somebody explain me how it even makes sense......
really? Well, they say it's the quintessential expression of freedom, the 'right to arm' They forget that that concept was espoused during the 1960-80s by the NRA
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Second Amendment is plain on its face.

Tampa Tribune has an article on-line about Stand Your Ground, and it's shocking, people have used it successfully to run after someone and shoot them in the back, multiple shootings in the back, gang violence, gang people walk, two guys fall in the water fighting, the one climbs out, the other shoots him in the back. Maybe these two guys will use it successfully.
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I'm sorry, but I don't speak 'Idiot'. I'll have to consult a translator and get back to you.

Or not.

You just hit a 3-post limit that I allot to losers like yourself.
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"When you point a finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back to you." Learn from this and grow up.
Would you please shut your tired, nothing to offer ass the hell up? There's no worse a troll than the kind who thinks he's witty and clever and isn't.
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Would you please shut your tired, nothing to offer ass the hell up? There's no worse a troll than the kind who thinks he's witty and clever and isn't.
You can tell that that poster is VERY young, and has a limited understanding of the real world and the stark reality of the issue.
I'm sure that he/she will learn one way or another though.
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