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View Poll Results: Venus or Maria?

Venus Williams 150 82.42%
Maria Sharapova 32 17.58%
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 02:14 AM   #61
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

It's very simple.
Naps on fast surfaces, Maria on slow courts.
If peak Napnus was struggling to wins over the Davenports on slow HC, I see no reason she's supposed to bully Davenport's better version in Pova.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 02:19 AM   #62
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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Yes, I agree with this. Perhaps he was talking about footwork. To me, though, Serena is still the best mover in the top 10, but her footwork (only at times) can take away from it.

Oh, and I think Venus would win peak to peak. Every shot of hers (at peak) beats Sharapova except the forehand (maybe). Even Venus' second serve was quite impressive at her peak, she had a MUCH cleaner motion before she was injured and changed it.
What I find amazing is... even with Serena's poor movement and footwork, she still gives Pova a massive beatdown

Can't be bad.

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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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^ Almost any player. Maybe you missed it but her movement has regressed in the last couple of years. Wake up it's not 2002 anymore.
"Almost anyone" in this instance not including the top two ranked players, right? Or are you arguing that either Azarenka or Sharapova moves better?
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 02:29 AM   #64
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

Venus. No doubt.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 03:01 AM   #65
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

venus.
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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It's very simple.
Naps on fast surfaces, Maria on slow courts.
If peak Napnus was struggling to wins over the Davenports on slow HC, I see no reason she's supposed to bully Davenport's better version in Pova.
It seems there is a wide variety of opinions to how Sharapova compares to Davenport as players. If I hadnt started too many peak threads already that would have been my next one.

IMO peak Davenport (98-2000) > peak Sharapova (2004-2006) but I understand that is one people could easily argue either way.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 05:44 AM   #67
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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if she is so good on all surfaces, why it happened so that she's never won RG and AO? and won less Tier 1 than Sharapova in shorter career?

the only one explanation is that she is not that good outside fast surfaces
IDK she was probably too busy winning Wimbledon 5 times.

Venus 6-0 6-0 except maybe at RG where cow on ice goat on clay Sharapova wins in 3.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #69
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

Venus on fast HC, grass.
Maria, clay and slow HC.
Period.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 09:46 AM   #70
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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They're in a world of their own. This poster genuinely tried to claim Serena wins the long rallies in her matches against Azarenka Don't bother trying to reason with it.
And Sharapova does win the long rallies against Azarenka?!
Difference is Serena CAN end the points quickly against Vika, unlike Masha..
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 10:43 AM   #71
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

As usual in every Sharapova thread, Azarenka and Kvitova fanboys are trying to stay relevant

Back on topic, Peak Venus >>>> Peak Sharapova
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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It's very simple.
Naps on fast surfaces, Maria on slow courts.
If peak Napnus was struggling to wins over the Davenports on slow HC, I see no reason she's supposed to bully Davenport's better version in Pova.
Think about what you just said sis.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #73
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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Again, knee injuries are irrelevant because Venus's defence has never been an asset .....
What? Perhaps there's a typo or missing word.

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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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at people still trotting out Peak Venus's supposedly great movement. Even though she had great raw athleticism, her defence was always extremely inefficient due to her bad anticipation and very low tennis IQ. Maria won the majority of extended rallies in all her non-grass matches against Venus.

Peak Venus wins on grass and quick hardcourts, Maria wins on slow hardcourts and clay. Maria would've been able to get hold of Venus's serve on slower surfaces and probably manage to scrape back most of Venus's first strikes in a rally, and then Maria's superior and less error-prone groundgame would do the rest of the work

It's too bad you didn't post in the peak Serena vs peak Maria thread...it'd been interesting to read your thoughts about THAT match-up.
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

Sharapova wins at Australian Open and Roland Garros, Venus wins at Wimbledon and US Open
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