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View Poll Results: Venus or Maria?

Venus Williams 150 82.42%
Maria Sharapova 32 17.58%
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 10:04 PM   #46
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

peak venus

sharapova is all serve and grunt

venus might be immobile these days, but she is borderline retired

she used to be amazing, especially on grass
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 10:06 PM   #47
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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didn't we see this matchup at wimbly 2005 semi-final?

venus won in 2 sets
Yes, ON GRASS. Noone disputes Venus would beat Peak Maria on grass. But that doesn't say anything about a peak-v-peak match-up on other surfaces.
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 11:12 PM   #48
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

How original

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=450515
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #49
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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I never said that. Never, ever, ever. You just had the audacity to say Venus had poor defense. You even said Serena has bad defense. Even at 31, with 2 surgeries on her legs, nobody moves better and it's not even close.

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They're in a world of their own. This poster genuinely tried to claim Serena wins the long rallies in her matches against Azarenka Don't bother trying to reason with it.
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 11:42 PM   #51
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Who moves better than Serena?
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 11:46 PM   #52
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

^ Almost any player. Maybe you missed it but her movement has regressed in the last couple of years. Wake up it's not 2002 anymore.
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 11:56 PM   #53
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

^ I never said it hasn't regressed but who moves better? I can't think of anyone, even with Serena well past her physical prime. Kvitova? Sharapova? Azarenka? Stosur? Li? Radwanska? Serena's movement and explosiveness and defense to offense is better than any of them and it's not even close. Says more about the athletes on the women's side more than anything though.
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^ Almost any player. Maybe you missed it but her movement has regressed in the last couple of years. Wake up it's not 2002 anymore.
You might be able to make a case if you meant footwork, but in terms of pure foot speed Serena is still very much up at the top, even if she's not as fast as she used to be.
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You might be able to make a case if you meant footwork, but in terms of pure foot speed Serena is still very much up at the top, even if she's not as fast as she used to be.
Yes, I agree with this. Perhaps he was talking about footwork. To me, though, Serena is still the best mover in the top 10, but her footwork (only at times) can take away from it.

Oh, and I think Venus would win peak to peak. Every shot of hers (at peak) beats Sharapova except the forehand (maybe). Even Venus' second serve was quite impressive at her peak, she had a MUCH cleaner motion before she was injured and changed it.
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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You might be able to make a case if you meant footwork, but in terms of pure foot speed Serena is still very much up at the top, even if she's not as fast as she used to be.
This^ Serena is the fastest in the top 10 besides Wozniacki.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 01:17 AM   #57
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

I would definitely say it goes three sets. I think Venus edges it. Her athleticism at her peak was astonishing. Best explosive court coverage really.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 01:22 AM   #58
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

Both have great ballstriking ability at their peaks. Martha is much more consistent off the ground at her peak but Venus has much better movement/athleticism.

I'd say Venus in 3.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 01:26 AM   #59
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Re: Peak Venus VS Peak Maria

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Thought I'd join the 'Peak' hype.

I actually think Maria wins this one....
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!
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