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Old Jun 7th, 2011, 01:37 PM   #1
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Opening post thread - for tournament managers only!

If you are running a tipping tournament, simply copy the following text into the first post of your tournament's thread and add some finishing touches like a title, last year's results, pick the colors, fonts etc. Just make sure you erase the point distributions to leave the one of the category of your event (if you're running a Premier event, you leave points for Premier etc.). I will update this post with every rule change that is agreed upon.

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HOW TO PLAY

Playing Tipping is very easy. I will post the schedule and then you just tip who you think will win. Just type "in" to play (this will make my life easier but if you forgot to post "in" this is not the end of the world).

e.g If the schedule was...
Ivanovic vs Li
V. Williams vs Pironkova

This is how you would tip...
Ivanovic
Pironkova

It is only main draw singles matches.

If there's 1 point played in a match then the match counts (walkover or a pre-match retirement doesn´t count).

Pick for each match should be posted before the start of that match.

For the final match you will also need to guess how many games will be played. This will work as a tiebreaker.

Do NOT edit your post. If you want to change your picks do it in a new post. Edited posts will make all your picks invalid.

Also DO NOT make changes to your picks by quoting your previous post; this will make all of your changes invalid.


HOW TO SOLVE TIES

1. The player who guessed the winner.
2. The player who is closest in games guessed.
3. The player who posted the fastest post in the final. If no one posted in the final, points from previous rounds are examined going backwards, until a clear advantage of one player is confirmed.


SCORING AND ADDITIONAL POINTS

First Round = 1 point per correct tip.
Every additional round = one point more than for the previous, per correct tip.

Extra points: 1 per correct tip, regardless of round; added to the sum of tournament points before bonus points.

Bonus points:

International
1st: 100
2nd: 75
3rd/4th: 50
5th-8th: 30

Premier
1st: 150
2nd: 100
3rd/4th: 75
5th-8th: 50

Premier 5
1st: 225
2nd: 150
3rd/4th: 100
5th-8th: 75
9th-12th: 35

Premier Mandatory
1st: 250
2nd: 175
3rd/4th: 125
5th-8th: 80
9th-12th: 40

Grand slam
1st: 400
2nd: 275
3rd/4th: 200
5th-8th: 120
9th-12th: 60

Year-End Championships
1st: 325
2nd: 225
3/4: 150
5-8: 100

Tournament of Champions
1st: 120
2nd: 90
3/4: 60
5-8: 40

Olympic games
1st: 150
2nd: 120
3rd: 90
4th: 70
5-8: 50
9-12: 35


THE RANKINGS

Your best 16 results the past 52 weeks will count towards your ranking. There are no mandarory tournaments.

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Old Jan 8th, 2012, 01:41 AM   #2
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please update the thread/post ma re...
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Old Jan 8th, 2012, 06:35 AM   #3
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please update the thread/post ma re...
Right...sorry about that
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Old Jan 8th, 2012, 01:58 PM   #4
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Re: Opening post thread - for tournament managers only!

I think I said that before, but the order of TB rule #3 and #4 makes no sense.

It's impossible that rule #4 ever comes into play.

Option #1: Change rule #3 and #4
Option #2: remove ruloe #4

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Old Jan 22nd, 2012, 07:11 AM   #6
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I think I said that before, but the order of TB rule #3 and #4 makes no sense.

It's impossible that rule #4 ever comes into play.

Option #1: Change rule #3 and #4
Option #2: remove ruloe #4

This might've happened before you joined the game, but I remember a case where we had two players finishing inside bonus points despite neither of them playing the final day. In such ocassions (as rare as they are) you need rule #4.
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Re: Opening post thread - for tournament managers only!

But rule # 3 also says: "If no one posted in the final go back to the semi final and so on".
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But rule # 3 also says: "If no one posted in the final go back to the semi final and so on".
True. In a sense #3 should sound something like:
"If no one posted in the final, results from previous rounds are examined going backwards, until a clear advantage of one player is confirmed." - so that it can stand clearly for #3 and #4 without a risk of confusion.

P. S. These rules are quite old and not worded very skillfully hence the need for occasional improvements.
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Re: Opening post thread - for tournament managers only!

that sounds good

I think you should rename the thread and add "+ Rules" (sth. like that) to the thread title.
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Re: Opening post thread - for tournament managers only!

In the How to play and rule thread: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=400436

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How to solve ties

1. The player who is closest in games guessed.
2. The player who guessed the winner.
3. The player who got the most correct picks in the semi final. If the same, move backwards to quarterfinal and so on.
4. The player who posted the fastest post in the final. If no one posted in the final go backwards to the semis and so on.
So originally #3 and #4 were swapped. But I still don't like the fastest post idea, and I don't really have good ideas to solve it (maybe have it written not 19 games, but 06 60 61 instead).
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Old Jan 30th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #11
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So originally #3 and #4 were swapped. But I still don't like the fastest post idea, and I don't really have good ideas to solve it (maybe have it written not 19 games, but 06 60 61 instead).
Yes, originally they were swapped, just like the first two and I think we made the right choices there.
But the question here is, are you OK with current #3 and #4 being substituted with one (instead of two) simple rule which would state that if no one of the two tied players posted in the final, we just count their points backwards until we reach a round where one of them was more successful. That's all we are discussing here.
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Re: Opening post thread - for tournament managers only!

Okay. But as I understand, in the previous edition rule #4 was used when counting the points backwards gave the same result. If 2 players scored identical points in the previous rounds, you had to look who posted first for the final.

By your suggestion there could be a tied 1st place (if you want to only count backwards, not taking into consideration if someone posted sooner).

If there can be tied positions, it's all good
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By your suggestion there could be a tied 1st place (if you want to only count backwards, not taking into consideration if someone posted sooner).
Here I'll simplify to the extreme; suggestion is to go from:

1. The player who guessed the winner.
2. The player who is closest in games guessed.
3. The player who posted the fastest post in the final. If no one posted in the final go backwards to the semis and so on.
4. The player who got the most correct picks in the semi final. If the same, move backwards to quarterfinal and so on.


...to this:

1. The player who guessed the winner.
2. The player who is closest in games guessed.
3. The player who posted the fastest post in the final. If no one posted in the final, points from previous rounds are examined going backwards, until a clear advantage of one player is confirmed.
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"If no one posted in the final, results from previous rounds are examined going backwards, until a clear advantage of one player is confirmed."
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3. The player who posted the fastest post in the final. If no one posted in the final, points from previous rounds are examined going backwards, until a clear advantage of one player is confirmed.
Look at what you first suggested. One sentence in the beginning makes a difference.
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Look at what you first suggested. One sentence in the beginning makes a difference.
I know, I thought that was the word (results) that confused you. Sorry for not being clear enough, but this is what Frederik and I were suggesting and discussing.

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