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Old Oct 30th, 2012, 11:37 PM   #1
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Old Nov 3rd, 2012, 03:21 AM   #2
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Maybe a ranking for international tournaments could decide who plays the last tournament of the year instead of winners
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still have major issue about players that enter tournaments using PR, i pressume Petkovic will use PR in 2013 and commitment lists do give away info what ranking place player entered the event; let's say Petkovic enters Sydney tournament with PR of 11, we should use points of player ranked 11th in the rankings
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still have major issue about players that enter tournaments using PR, i pressume Petkovic will use PR in 2013 and commitment lists do give away info what ranking place player entered the event; let's say Petkovic enters Sydney tournament with PR of 11, we should use points of player ranked 11th in the rankings
Tina, you suggest to replace points for Petkovic with 471 on 3685?

Discrepancy of a ranking to force of the player is a serious problem, and concerns to many players, not only who uses PR.

The expert probably would replace 471 on 2000 or 2500, but not on 3685, and has corrected points still to some players. We have no expert, and it is better to not change points for all players.
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Old Nov 6th, 2012, 02:12 AM   #5
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i got to ask, all all my ideas bad, stupid or make no sense not once has anything i have proposed been treated as a good idea
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i got to ask, all all my ideas bad, stupid or make no sense not once has anything i have proposed been treated as a good idea
Tina, your ideas like me.

But the finest idea is firstly rejected. The good idea should be advanced, that the number of supporters one step at a time increased.

Let's try to develop idea of updating of ranking?
Yes, we have no expert. It is necessary to find it. Perhaps, somebody will agree to become them? Further one of possible versions. The expert can have the right to increase ranking to one or two players of any tournament, on 1000 or 500 points.

Then for Petkovic it will be appointed 471+1000=1471 pts. Or 471+500=971. I would choose 1471.

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Maybe a ranking for international tournaments could decide who plays the last tournament of the year instead of winners
The first TOC's involved players ranked 17 to 32 in the final Race rankings. Some players proposed that it was better to follow the WTA system and allow the top ranking International winners (who didn't play at the YEC's) to play at the TOC's. We had a vote on this and the majority of players voted to follow the WTA system.

This propopsal is another variation and would involve a new set of Race rankings for the International tournaments. Obviously it would involve more work for the PAW rankings co-ordinator at a time when we lose our current helper (FrOzon) from the start of next year. Therefore this proposal would have to be discussed between the PAW Board members in the off-season and more importantly, would need to be discussed with the person who takes over the rankings from next season, to see if they are happy to take on more work.

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still have major issue about players that enter tournaments using PR, i pressume Petkovic will use PR in 2013 and commitment lists do give away info what ranking place player entered the event; let's say Petkovic enters Sydney tournament with PR of 11, we should use points of player ranked 11th in the rankings
This issue has always been a difficult one for the PAW game, where a high ranked player returns back from injury with a very low ranking. Recent examples of Clijsters, Henin come to mind. Once again, if we try to redress the situation by artificially giving a higher ranking to a player then it adds another level of complexity into PAW management at a time when we have difficulty recruiting managers. My personal opinion is that this is just another part of the game which players have to build into their picking strategy but again, I think the PAW Board should look into any suggestions which could improve this issue in the off-season.
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I suggest a thread to update the title winners for the past few years (or maybe past year). Although it would be more work for the runners of the game. Because I don't remember if I have won any titles this year!
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Old Nov 8th, 2012, 12:49 PM   #9
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I suggest a thread to update the title winners for the past few years (or maybe past year). Although it would be more work for the runners of the game. Because I don't remember if I have won any titles this year!
The PAW Roll of honour thread has been run by Barlos in recent years but he has not been active on the forum for the past couple of months. Hopefully he will be back soon and can bring the thread fully up to date.
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still have major issue about players that enter tournaments using PR, i pressume Petkovic will use PR in 2013 and commitment lists do give away info what ranking place player entered the event; let's say Petkovic enters Sydney tournament with PR of 11, we should use points of player ranked 11th in the rankings
but they are not officially released for all tournaments, so that doesn't really help.

What about: If a non-wild card player has less than 100 points less than the player above her in the commitment list, then their ranking points are set to the player above minus 100 points.

So for example, Szávay would get 985 points for New Haven http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=466339 . This does create some problems with players who had a high acceptance list rank but then fell before the main draw; for example, Pervak would get 985 points for Cincinnati. http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=465770 , and Pervak 985 and Martínez Sánchez 885 for Montreal http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=465480 . It does have the benefit of being relatively easy to implement, as long as you remember that the rule is in place.
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