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1. 40 26.85%
9. 99 66.44%
Others.(Please specify.) 2 1.34%
Hard to say. 8 5.37%
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 03:43 AM   #181
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

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No, all the steps there are true in both versions of order of operations in question.

I'm not totally sure what you mean by "dependent on the semantics!"
Nevermind. I just realized where I was mistaken. Your proof is flawless.
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 09:16 AM   #182
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

I said 9 but I can see how someone can get 1.

Can someone tell me why it's not 1 again?
Thanks. I can't be bothered reading 13 pages of this.
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #183
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

I thought the best way to prove that 9 was right was this:

2(2+1) = 2 x (2+1) just like 2(3) = 2 x 3. Right?

Therefore, it is 6 ÷ 2 x 3 = 9

To say the answer is 1 would mean the question is written 6÷(2(2+1)). Where do the extra brackets come from? Where?
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 10:31 AM   #184
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

OMG there are Youtube clips on this:

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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 01:11 PM   #185
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #186
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%2F2%282%2B1%29

just use Wolfram, however you type it with or without * it gives the same answer, it's 9...
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

This is too easy

Here is one more interesting math problem: how much is 0.9 periodic (so 0.9999...)?
I just find it amusing that it can be proven that it equals 1
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 07:50 PM   #188
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

hmmm . my original posted answer was 1. Based on multiplication before division.

Rewriting though 6x1/2x3 =9 so

However according to Wolfram Alpha "implied multiplication without parentheses precedes division" so that makes the answer 1.

The overall issue here is a poorly written problem but given its parameters the correct reading, by the accepted standards I know and those I've re-checked, is 6÷ (2(2+1))
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 08:03 PM   #189
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

one more source:
American Mathematical Society (AMS)

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"multiplication indicated by juxtaposition is carried out before
division." Thus, in general, for any variables a, b and c, we would
have a/bc = a/(bc) (assuming, of course, that b and c are nonzero).
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

Lol It is 9.
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

Jesus Christ on a cross, egalite is a mathematics professional. Take his word for it.
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

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Of course there is. Mathematicians don't establish rules like these unless they're essential. Here's why it matters for the problem in this thread:

Multiplication of real numbers is associative: (ab)c=a(bc).

Take four nonzero integers a,b,c,d and multiply: a times b/c times d.

By associativity, (ab/c)d=a(b/cd).

But interpreting these expressions in the same manner that is used to achieve an answer of 1, we get (ab/c)d=(abd)/c, and a(b/cd)=ab/(cd). These are not equal. If we mess around with order of operations, multiplication becomes non-associative.
Perhaps you should contact the AMS (see above) since according to them a/bc is to be interpreted as a/(bc)

Either way, your "proof" is flawed. There is nothing in the problem (or either answer) that countermands the associative property. I'll let you figure it out.
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

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This is too easy

Here is one more interesting math problem: how much is 0.9 periodic (so 0.9999...)?
I just find it amusing that it can be proven that it equals 1
x=0.99999999999999999999999999999....
10x=9.99999999999999999999999999999......
10x-x=9
9x=9
x=1
what's amusing about that :S
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 10:38 PM   #194
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

It's 9. Trust me, I'm a 1st grade Chemical Engineering student
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Re: 6÷2(2+1)=?

WTF is (? If ( = () the result should be 9.

6:2x(2+1)= 3x3=9
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