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Old Oct 10th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #76
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It's not that her game isn't good enough, its just that she loses all of her confidence in finals. Look at her attitude in her 3 slam wins before the surgery there is a huge difference, and that is belief. She can still play an amazing game on hard courts, just look at the match against Kerber.
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[I've read about a rotator cuff operation in the shoulder - it's a wonder that she plays tennis on such a high level at all - 'cause one loses strength in that shoulder which never can be rebuild again
MashaFan01, in general I agree with what you wrote. It is a confidence issue. Like I said in my previous post, I still think she is fragile in a way.
In the quoted part of your post- I disagree. There are many articles (medical) that describe patients returning to the previous level of performance after a rotator cuff surgery.
Those who don't rebuild the strength ever again, are usually those who have a full thickness tear, which, thanks God, I think Masha didn't have. Unless they haven't told us the whole truth.

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I agree MashaFan01. It's all about her confidence. Also I always wondered, if she's ambidextrous, why not just ditch that bum right shoulder and play lefty? I mean...we know she can do it, it'd just be learning how to serve again
that train is gone, she cannot play lefty on pro tour... But she could use the underarm serve.


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It's not that her game isn't good enough, its just that she loses all of her confidence in finals. Look at her attitude in her 3 slam wins before the surgery there is a huge difference, and that is belief. She can still play an amazing game on hard courts, just look at the match against Kerber.
Yup! I totally agree. When she feels confident, she can do amazing things with the ball (all those winners ), with her A game. But when she doubts. Huh.. She is frozen then, and mainly stuck in one place (her footwork betrays her) and she is too passive and playing to the middle too much, not moving the opponent at all. Besides, Vichka will always outrun her.


Besides what can one expect when you see her this tight when the match hasn't started yet --- https://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.ne...iirvpQqqDB4wY_
It's like Roger vs. Nadal, so pale, so tight...

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Is the underarm serve even legal these days?
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Is the underarm serve even legal these days?
Pretty sure it is, like it's always been.
How amazing would it be if someone randomly decided to serve underarm a la Hingis RG '99 final.
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Pretty sure it is, like it's always been.
How amazing would it be if someone randomly decided to serve underarm a la Hingis RG '99 final.
I don't know which year it was, but I'm sure a girl did it mid-match at Wimbledon, probably in the juniors. I was watching and everyone in the crowd was like "did that bitch really just do that"
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I was watching AO highlights too, the reason Maria was so successful there was because she had implemented the spins and the angles on her shots. I think we have to appreciate that Maria started from scratch to go from zero to number 1 in the world in 3 years is pretty amazing. How many juniors do that? And that's what Maria just coming back could almost be compared to.

The main thing that she needs to work on is her serve which she will continue to do that. It is the catalyst for her game. She really needs to get a natural feel for it because that's what gives the variety and she doesn't have that at the minute. If she can get that fully back then her HC tennis will likely comeback, even though Maria in 2005/2006 was all out flat bashing and it was amazing, it led to very erratic performances which is why her spins and angles could be a good thing in the long run. I mean look at some of the shockers she's game us this year, imagine if she was trying to bash every ball (in fact many shocker have been because of that).

Yeah, she needs her confidence back again, that killer unshakable belief but realistically even the toughest don't have unlimited strength. The past couple of years will have taken a lot out of her but seasons like this one should go a long way to getting that back. I know it's frustrating to see her lose to players like Vika/Aga who an AO 2008 Maria would have bagelled and breadsticked but it's a process. She's came leaps and bounds these past two season, the time for worrying will be if we're still here this time next year.
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Have I already said that I want a Radwanska rematch at the YEC? Maria needs to beat her as soon as possible! She has to!
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Have I already said that I want a Radwanska rematch at the YEC? Maria needs to beat her as soon as possible! She has to!
I'm not sure if I'd like to see her lose to Aga if her game isn't there yet.

But otherwise, give it your all, Maria. Withdraw from all your exhos
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I'm not sure if I'd like to see her lose to Aga if her game isn't there yet.

But otherwise, give it your all, Maria. Withdraw from all your exhos
So true! Another loss to Radwanska would be too much to handle!
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I don't know which year it was, but I'm sure a girl did it mid-match at Wimbledon, probably in the juniors. I was watching and everyone in the crowd was like "did that bitch really just do that"
Now imagine if a top pro did it.
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Old Oct 11th, 2012, 04:58 PM   #90
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So when will the groups and draw be made? It starts next week right? Or not? Oops
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