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Old Oct 26th, 2012, 09:27 PM   #796
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

If this girl DARES to refuse to hit her BH DTL tomorrow.
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Old Oct 26th, 2012, 09:28 PM   #797
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

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Old Oct 26th, 2012, 09:37 PM   #798
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

Maria's not going to end year #1 guys









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Old Oct 26th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #799
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

I'm feeling *fairly* good about tomorrow -- but I no longer trust my instincts in this match-up. Even though I didn't think she was guaranteed to win the Beijing match - I gave Maria the edge going into it, but certainly didn' think it was NID - but I really didn't expect her to get a thrashing atall, I really thought her days of playing utterly retardedly against Vika were over. So it's hard to say with certainty that she'll play well tomorrow. It basically just depends on Maria not shitting her pants / not having a brain freeze.

Usual tedious spiel I write about the Vika-Maria matches: Maria NEEDS to hit into the corners/down-the-lines, even if she only hits into them at 3/4-pace. As ever, her usual shtick against Vika of blasting straight into the centre of the court at FULL pace, is both more unreliable AND less effective, because she can't stem the errors when trying to blast at full pace, AND even when the shots go in, Vika has underratedly fantastic reaction times so can scoop up anything you hit right to her no matter how hard you hit it, so you have to exploit her mediocre raw footspeed and keep it in the corners away from her. Blablabla.

One thing to add though: I have a theory that the way Maria starts the match is like SUPER important, more important than other players. Just a theory, but it just seems to me in her matches against Vika this year (and against Serena, for that matter), if Maria immediately goes behind in a match, it feels to me like she starts panicking about getting an embarrassing beatdown, and that in itself becomes self-fulfilling because she can't relax Whereas the two matches she did well against Vika this year, Stuttgart and US Open, both matches she jumped into 3-0 leads immediately, and it just feels like if she gets some games on the board immediately, so she can put her mind at rest that it won't be the WORST case scenario of a total beatdown, then she relaxes thereafter and is able to just focus on her tennis rather than having the worry of a humiliating one-sided scoreline preying on her mind. So I want to see her going for full-blooded returns into the corners in Vika's very first service game tomorrow and trying to get off to a great start, then hopefully if she gets that great start her racquet can take care of the rest.


*I'll admit the AO final - where Maria broke first - goes against this, but the only reason Maria won the first couple of games in that match anyway was because Vika started off so nervously rather than Maria doing anything special to get the break.
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

All of the above, and your 3/4 bit goes for Serena too. Vika won quite a few points doing that. She should get them both out wide and then hit a couple of bombs CC. Strangely though her FH has been her best shot this week, which is where Vika will hit to most often.
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One thing to add though: I have a theory that the way Maria starts the match is like SUPER important, more important than other players. Just a theory, but it just seems to me in her matches against Vika this year (and against Serena, for that matter), if Maria immediately goes behind in a match, it feels to me like she starts panicking about getting an embarrassing beatdown, and that in itself becomes self-fulfilling because she can't relax Whereas the two matches she did well against Vika this year, Stuttgart and US Open, both matches she jumped into 3-0 leads immediately, and it just feels like if she gets some games on the board immediately, so she can put her mind at rest that it won't be the WORST case scenario of a total beatdown, then she relaxes thereafter and is able to just focus on her tennis rather than having the worry of a humiliating one-sided scoreline preying on her mind. So I want to see her going for full-blooded returns into the corners in Vika's very first service game tomorrow and trying to get off to a great start, then hopefully if she gets that great start her racquet can take care of the rest.
I totally agree with this. One thing I've noticed: Maria tends to serve first in her matches against Vika. If she loses her opening service game, she loses the match.
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

masha really doesn't give two fucks about finishing the YEC no.1
i mean vikas deserved it, masha ofc has had an exceptional year, but vikas won like 6 titles this year

well done to both girls anyway
good luck tomorrow masha
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Old Oct 26th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #804
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

Approximately what time do you think Maria will start US eastern time?

I think I might have to miss her match again.
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

Glad to hear some positivity from you guys... some of my fellow Maria fans on Twitter don't have the same faith.

We know she can beat Vika... she just has to go out and do it.

Lefty: My guess is around 10AM or a little before.
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

I wonder if Maria really does care as little about the #1 spot as most of us do She has said a few comments this year which indicate she maybe thinks it's a bit more important than she used to (she literally couldn't have cared less about it when she got it back in 2008), and it did seem like she was quite emotional when she was told in that interview after her RG SF that she was back at #1, but I don't know if she's just saying it because the WTA asked her to for PR purposes or if she's actually changed her mind.

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All of the above, and your 3/4 bit goes for Serena too. Vika won quite a few points doing that. She should get them both out wide and then hit a couple of bombs CC. Strangely though her FH has been her best shot this week, which is where Vika will hit to most often.
Yup. I have a lot more rambling thoughts on how Maria beats Serena, which I'll save for if when Maria gets through to the final
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I wonder if Maria really does care as little about the #1 spot as most of us do She has said a few comments this year which indicate she maybe thinks it's a bit more important than she used to (she literally couldn't have cared less about it when she got it back in 2008), and it did seem like she was quite emotional when she was told in that interview after her RG SF that she was back at #1, but I don't know if she's just saying it because the WTA asked her to for PR purposes or if she's actually changed her mind.



Yup. I have a lot more rambling thoughts on how Maria beats Serena, which I'll save for if when Maria gets through to the final
I guess everything is a bigger deal to her after the surgery.
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

Hey guys!
Have been away from SS quite some time...
Anyway, thank you Maria for making me look like an overtly pessimistic fan! You reached what I wanted/expected you to reach - a SF with 3:0 in RR.. Tomorrow... I have no expectations for tomorrow.. I think Vichka is a too tough cookie for her; kinda turning into a Serena-like matchup.. I will believe in the contrary only when I see her, not playing close and losing, but actually winning the match on HC.
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Hey guys!
Have been away from SS quite some time...
Anyway, thank you Maria for making me look like an overtly pessimistic fan! You reached what I wanted/expected you to reach - a SF with 3:0 in RR.. Tomorrow... I have no expectations for tomorrow.. I think Vichka is a too tough cookie for her; kinda turning into a Serena-like matchup.. I will believe in the contrary only when I see her, not playing close and losing, but actually winning the match on HC.
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

It's all on Maria's racket. As it always is.

Or more like in her head. If she doesn't psych herself out and just play the way she plays. She'll win. If not. Vika will.

I can't take another loss to Vika tbh.
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