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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 08:21 PM   #736
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

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I'm not good at the math - so I'm asking all of you wise guys and girls:

a) I know that Masha is in the semis but is it determined yet who the #1 of the White group is or are there still some "ifs" and isn't it true that Masha needs to end top of her group to avoid Williams in the semis

b) Serena Williams ended top of her group - but the #2 is not determined yet - Kerber is out and it's between Na and Victoria - If Na wins - is Masha to be the #1 in the rankings by reaching the semis or does she at least have to reach the final?

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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #737
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.


Thank you guys - Even if Victoria is out - she's to win the whole frecking tournament huh? - That's not going to be easy - if even possible - But one can always hope - right?
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #738
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Maria is surely the #1 in her group right now, even if Aga or Sara wins in straight, or Maria loses in straight to Sam tomorrow, she'll still be the #1 of the White Group.

And Serena is definitely the #1 of the Red Group. So Maria will play either Li or Vika in the semi. If Li wins tomorrow against Vika, Maria will still stand a chance to be the No.1 by the end of the season if she wins the tournament, and that means beating Serena in the final..
Wait, aren't lost sets taken in count when players have equal number of wins and losses? For example if Maria losses to Sam tomorrow and Aga beats Errani in straights, doesn't that put Aga first in the group with a ratio of 4-2(sets) and Maria second with 4-3 won/lost sets stats?


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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 08:39 PM   #739
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

No, if Maria loses and Aga wins tomorrow, they are both 2-1, but Maria beat Aga yesterday in the RR match so she will finish first in the group, and even if Aga loses to Sara tomorrow, Maria will still finish first because she also beat Sara in the RR match. It only works the way you just said when there are 3 players have the same ratio of win-loss. In that case, they will be resolved first by the percentage of sets won, then by the percentage of games won.
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #740
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

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No, if Maria loses and Aga wins tomorrow, they are both 2-1, but Maria beat Aga yesterday in the RR match so she will finish first in the group, and even if Aga loses to Sara tomorrow, Maria will still finish first because she also beat Sara in the RR match. It only works the way you just said when there are 3 players have the same ratio of win-loss. In that case, they will be resolved first by the percentage of sets won, then by the percentage of games won.
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 09:06 PM   #741
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

The semis are pretty much a lock now: Serena vs Hagatha and Maria vs Vika which means another Willyrenka final.

And so far it's been a pretty great YEC
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 09:08 PM   #742
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #743
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

confirmed, masha will finish 1st in white group irregardless of the match outcomes tomorrow. so no rena SF

But she still has a monkey on her back - she is 0-22 against Top 5 players in her career, something she'll have to overcome as she takes on World No.4 Agnieszka Radwanska on Friday - the winner of that match will qualify for the semifinals as No.2 in the White Group, behind Maria Sharapova.

That match is second on, and the third match on will also determine a semifinalist - Victoria Azarenka and Li Na will square off, the winner of that match qualifying for the semifinals as No.2 in the Red Group, behind Serena Williams (Azarenka and Li both played on Thursday as well - read about Azarenka's loss to Williams here and Li's win over Kerber here).

The first match of the day pits Sharapova against Stosur and will not affect the standings in the White Group or who qualifies for the semifinals.
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

Sharapova 0-22 against top 5?
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

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Sharapova 0-22 against top 5?
IKR. What's up with that .

Anyway Vika isn't a lock for the semifinal yet and neither is Haga. I still think that the semifinal matches will be Serena-Haga and Maria-Li.
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #746
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

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That's about Errani.
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

Ooops
Was Stosur not #5 at RG?
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

She was #6. Serena overtook her in the rankings after Madrid/Rome.
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That's about Errani.
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