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Old Oct 8th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #556
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Re: Beijing F: Azarenka def. Sharapova 6-3, 6-1

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She was very active between Miami and USO, probably played more in that period than the shrieking twins. But she still missed two Mandatories, Tokyo and middle-eastern swing, which adds up to quite a lot in the end.
Well Serena plays an old-school schedule. If it´s not in Europe, North America or Australia it doesn´t exist.
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Re: Beijing F: Azarenka def. Sharapova 6-3, 6-1

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Those are different small parts. Not large parts, which was the original assertion. Learn to read, Troll01. That goes for anyone else who claims Serena has done anything else other than take a few small breaks.
Exactly!!
I thought I was missing something, so I went to the WTA site to see what these posters were talking about when they said "large parts of the season".
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Re: Beijing F: Azarenka def. Sharapova 6-3, 6-1

Serena's been on her own schedule since what, 2006 or thereabouts?

Where and when she plays is irrelevant to Vika, or anybody else who wants to be the next true #1.

You have to beat Serena in the late rounds of a slam. It really is quite simple.
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Re: Beijing F: Azarenka def. Sharapova 6-3, 6-1

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Those are different small parts. Not large parts, which was the original assertion. Learn to read, Troll01. That goes for anyone else who claims Serena has done anything else other than take a few small breaks.

And I clarified and posted that all those missed tournmanets from your overrated fave make up one pretty large part of the season. Learn to read, Trollorin.
But in your delusional world where Serena can do no wrong skipping all tournaments between the US Open and the YEC is only a "small break"
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Serena's been on her own schedule since what, 2006 or thereabouts?

Where and when she plays is irrelevant to Vika, or anybody else who wants to be the next true #1.

You have to beat Serena in the late rounds of a slam. It really is quite simple.
It IS a simple as that.

To blame Serena's success on her scheduling is like blaming a billionaire for investing wisely.
It just doesn't make any sense.

If the other players are not intelligent enough to schedule wisely, you just can't blame that on Serena.
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And I clarified and posted that all those missed tournmanets from your overrated fave make up one pretty large part of the season. Learn to read, Trollorin.
But in your delusional world where Serena can do no wrong skipping all tournaments between the US Open and the YEC is only a "small break"
You've already proven yourself to be an idiot. Why make it worse?

If Serena requires more off-time than the younger players, who are you to say otherwise?
If she requires more prep and conditioning time prior to her next event, then obviously she is doing the right things as she won two slams this year, PLUS two Olympic Golds (not to mention 3 other singles titles).
Why do you have to be so ignorant in every single post referencing Serena?
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Re: Beijing F: Azarenka def. Sharapova 6-3, 6-1

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It IS a simple as that.

To blame Serena's success on her scheduling is like blaming a billionaire for investing wisely.
It just doesn't make any sense.

If the other players are not intelligent enough to schedule wisely, you just can't blame that on Serena.
Even so, I'd argue that Victoria has done a good job of scheduling. It's obvious she wants to be the YE #1, and she has scheduled accordingly.

Serena doesn't need a YE #1 at this point in her career. Vika does. She's still trying to make her mark and establish herself as a top player from her generation.

I hope that there comes a time when Vika can sit atop a pile of Grand Slams and weeks at #1 and have exactly the same attitude Serena does.

Rank (not computer rank, but as the best player of your generation) has its privileges, and you don't have to be a Serena fan to concede the obvious. Venus, Kim and, were she still playing, Justine, have earned the same props.
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Re: Beijing F: Azarenka def. Sharapova 6-3, 6-1

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And I clarified and posted that all those missed tournmanets from your overrated fave make up one pretty large part of the season. Learn to read, Trollorin.
But in your delusional world where Serena can do no wrong skipping all tournaments between the US Open and the YEC is only a "small break"
I don't know how people, at this point in her career, with all that she's achieving, can still call her overrated. Makes no sense to me.
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Re: Beijing F: Azarenka def. Sharapova 6-3, 6-1

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Doha, IW, Canada, Tokyo, Bejing = pretty large part of the season.
She has not played IW in ages, as you know.

Only Tokyo and Beijing are in the same season/part of the year.

Serena missed some events due to injury or illness.

Did the other top ten players not miss any tournaments due to injury or illness? Did some only play to avoid getting a zero pointer? Hmmm. Think so.

People need to stop this bullshit about Serena's schedule this year.

Serena played a full schedule this season. Enjoy it while it lasts.

She can't be here forever for all of you that love to see her fail or who love talk about her nonstop even though you hate her. It is kind of pathetic. Seriously.
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You've already proven yourself to be an idiot. Why make it worse?

If Serena requires more off-time than the younger players, who are you to say otherwise?
If she requires more prep and conditioning time prior to her next event, then obviously she is doing the right things as she won two slams this year, PLUS two Olympic Golds.
Why do you have to be so ignorant in every single post referencing Serena?

I only said that Serena missed a large part of the season. If she needs to take more time off than her younger opponents, then she can do that. I don't mind that at all.

But what I DO MIND are clowns like you who insult other posters because they dare to they something critical about their fave. You can't properly read, can't even properly insult, why don't you just p*ss off since you are not able to intelligently discuss anything when it comes to Serena.
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I don't know how people, at this point in her career, with all that she's achieving, can still call her overrated. Makes no sense to me.
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She has not played IW in ages, as you know.

Only Tokyo and Beijing are in the same season/part of the year.

It doesn't matter that Serena missed IW already before, we are talking about THIS year. And IW, Dubai and Doha are in the same part of the year.
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Even so, I'd argue that Victoria has done a good job of scheduling. It's obvious she wants to be the YE #1, and she has scheduled accordingly.

Serena doesn't need a YE #1 at this point in her career. Vika does. She's still trying to make her mark and establish herself as a top player from her generation.

I hope that there comes a time when Vika can sit atop a pile of Grand Slams and weeks at #1 and have exactly the same attitude Serena does.

Rank (not computer rank, but as the best player of your generation) has its privileges, and you don't have to be a Serena fan to concede the obvious. Venus, Kim and, were she still playing, Justine, have earned the same props.
The schedule is just too much. I was shocked that Vika has already played 70 matches, despite virtually withdrawing from Dubai, Rome, Montreal, Tokyo and not playing Cincy. Had she played those (till the end) she would have finished the season with over 90 matches without even playing one tournament that would qualify as whoring. Nobody can withstand that for more than 2-3 seasons. If the WTA wants consistency at the top, they need to do something about their restrictions, cause consistently winning with that calendar will burn you out. I´d say 60-65 matches is ideal, 50-60 once you get older.
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And I clarified and posted that all those missed tournmanets from your overrated fave make up one pretty large part of the season. Learn to read, Trollorin.
But in your delusional world where Serena can do no wrong skipping all tournaments between the US Open and the YEC is only a "small break"
Overrated?! Now, now...don't go all crazy on us, matty. 15 majors are 15 majors, nothing overrated there.
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Even so, I'd argue that Victoria has done a good job of scheduling. It's obvious she wants to be the YE #1, and she has scheduled accordingly.

Serena doesn't need a YE #1 at this point in her career. Vika does. She's still trying to make her mark and establish herself as a top player from her generation.

I hope that there comes a time when Vika can sit atop a pile of Grand Slams and weeks at #1 and have exactly the same attitude Serena does.

Rank (not computer rank, but as the best player of your generation) has its privileges, and you don't have to be a Serena fan to concede the obvious. Venus, Kim and, were she still playing, Justine, have earned the same props.
Definitely agree about Azarenka's scheduling. Her success proves and bares that out.
And she has snared her the #1 ranking in the process.
It is certainly well-deserved.

My beef wasn't with what you posted, as I agree with all of your points here.
My problem was in reference to others who attempted to call Serena's scheduling into question.

Just like Azarenka's scheduling, Serena's has also worked exceedingly well for her.
People (obviously not you) forget Serena's age and style-of-play are mitigating factors.when scheduling.
But of course, there are those who know this but just want to cast shade and misstate the truth.
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