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Oct 19th, 2012, 09:11 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
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So Petra is gonna end the year out of the top 5? Well this is pathetic!
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Only if she performs badly or equally to Kirby at YEC, otherwise she is back to Top5, saddest part even with another YEC win Petra couldn't pass Aga for Top4 spot for better draw at AO i.e she probably end up getting played against Masha or Rena in QF or even sooner 
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Oct 19th, 2012, 11:39 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
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Kotyza (after 12 days training) : „ At the end she was a little bit dead, she was fed up . She will have a different training mode in Istanbul … She looked good , but it will be very different situation during matches. All girls have high quality. What Petra could do , she did.“
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Thanks to you and ShiftyFella for the input;however,Petra couldn't meet a Top 4 player PRIOR TO the QFs unless she dropped out of the Top 8. IMO,facing a tough opponent in the QFs is nothing to whine about;ideally,the women's ranks SHOULD be that tough if the sport seeks to be healthy and competitive.As much credit as Serena deserves,it's not good if she doesn't even get slightly pushed by the other high-ranked players(though,to be fair,she avoids slow red clay as much as possible to keep from looking so mortal),and there'll be more fan interest if there's at least some level of suspense....though we don't always enjoy Petra's version of suspense that results from uneven play 
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Oct 19th, 2012, 11:49 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
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Thanks to you and ShiftyFella for the input;however,Petra couldn't meet a Top 4 player PRIOR TO the QFs unless she dropped out of the Top 8. IMO,facing a tough opponent in the QFs is nothing to whine about;ideally,the women's ranks SHOULD be that tough if the sport seeks to be healthy and competitive.As much credit as Serena deserves,it's not good if she doesn't even get slightly pushed by the other high-ranked players(though,to be fair,she avoids slow red clay as much as possible to keep from looking so mortal),and there'll be more fan interest if there's at least some level of suspense....though we don't always enjoy Petra's version of suspense that results from uneven play 
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And Petra has got most of her big tournament wins (up to & including Wimbledon from a lower rank anyway.
Once she made top 4 the results went off, and when she dropped out of the top 4 again she won Montreal & New Haven
When she's playing well it doesn't matter what her rank is.
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Oct 20th, 2012, 06:44 AM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
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Thanks to you and ShiftyFella for the input;however,Petra couldn't meet a Top 4 player PRIOR TO the QFs unless she dropped out of the Top 8. IMO,facing a tough opponent in the QFs is nothing to whine about;ideally,the women's ranks SHOULD be that tough if the sport seeks to be healthy and competitive.As much credit as Serena deserves,it's not good if she doesn't even get slightly pushed by the other high-ranked players(though,to be fair,she avoids slow red clay as much as possible to keep from looking so mortal),and there'll be more fan interest if there's at least some level of suspense....though we don't always enjoy Petra's version of suspense that results from uneven play 
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My premises was more about if she has chance to achieve better result without braking a sweat, why not try to do it? look at Pova, she's always around the top not because she is great talented player like Rena or grinder of tournaments points whenever is possible like Aga, she's just done what she needs to do and steps up where need it, no more no less, basically she tries not to overlay herself and capitalizes on favorable draw. Of course Petra could beat Pova in QF, Vika in SF and Rena in the final if she is fully on and this would be confirmation of her magnificence but why try to make hard on yourself?
also, if Petra could be more careful with her health results in Beijing would be totally different, heck even in this season if she wouldn't got ill before it. ES commentators laughing at Vika with her catsuit outfits and withdrawals form some tournaments but Vika is smart because she avoids 0 pointers, better looks for her health and creates more balanced schedule, why Petra can't do similar stuff but without turning into part-time GOAT like Rena?
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Oct 20th, 2012, 01:31 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
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My premises was more about if she has chance to achieve better result without braking a sweat, why not try to do it? look at Pova, she's always around the top not because she is great talented player like Rena or grinder of tournaments points whenever is possible like Aga, she's just done what she needs to do and steps up where need it, no more no less, basically she tries not to overlay herself and capitalizes on favorable draw. Of course Petra could beat Pova in QF, Vika in SF and Rena in the final if she is fully on and this would be confirmation of her magnificence but why try to make hard on yourself?
also, if Petra could be more careful with her health results in Beijing would be totally different, heck even in this season if she wouldn't got ill before it. ES commentators laughing at Vika with her catsuit outfits and withdrawals form some tournaments but Vika is smart because she avoids 0 pointers, better looks for her health and creates more balanced schedule, why Petra can't do similar stuff but without turning into part-time GOAT like Rena?
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Your points are very practical,but I suppose that my approach stems mostly from the attitude of not backing down from tough opponents.I'd like to see Petra at least reach the point where she doesn't look at the draw and,with trembling,fear facing certain players....She probably doesn't do that very much,yet a truly elite player shouldn't do it AT ALL
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Oct 21st, 2012, 04:57 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
Sharapova, Radwanska, Kvitova, Errani in the white group.
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Oct 21st, 2012, 04:58 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
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Red Group: Azarenka, Serena, Kerber, Li
White Group: Sharapova, Aga, Kvitova, Errani
Petra has good change of going 2-1 and Aga too if beats Pova 
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Oct 21st, 2012, 05:00 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
best case scenario
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Oct 21st, 2012, 05:02 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
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best case scenario
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 surely she must make it out of this group
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Oct 21st, 2012, 05:04 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
This is definitely best cast scenario for Petra. Good group draw for her. Looking forward to see what improvements were made back in CR. 
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Oct 21st, 2012, 05:06 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
Nice draw for Petra 
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Oct 21st, 2012, 05:20 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
The draw gods were very generous to Petra. I still stand by my prediction she'll reach the semis.
Errani 
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Oct 21st, 2012, 05:29 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
Yay, Petra! A nice draw...should make the semis! 
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Oct 21st, 2012, 05:31 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
Hoping in the white group Petra and Maria will qualify for the SF 
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Oct 21st, 2012, 05:42 PM
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Re: Petra Kvitova's YEC 2012
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Hoping in the white group Petra and Maria will qualify for the SF 
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Me too, Petra and Maria are the best players in the group.  !
Although, secretly I was hoping Sara would qualify to annoy everybody.  But that definitely won't happen!
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