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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 01:11 PM   #226
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it's probably on temporary release....
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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 02:20 PM   #227
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it's probably on temporary release....
Sweety Darling, there is no need to be bitter because your intention for making this thread has failed!


And I have shown you why

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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 05:59 PM   #228
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This thread is a joke. Graf overlooked? Only by people (generally Seles fanatics) who would like play revisionist history and spin ever increasing number of "what if" scenarios from their overheated imaginations.
Spot on...

As they hate her career they pretend to be Graf fans just in order to hide their subjectivity from others and sound more truthfully objective just in order to gain followers and try to spin generally accepted public opinion of her greatness next time the greatest poll shows up...

But,this guy who made this thread has failed!

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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 06:06 PM   #229
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it's probably on temporary release....
Calm down...

And I am not guilty 'cause "man are pigs and your ex couldn't keep his pants up around other guys for more than 5 mins.", as you said

I feel sorry for you! Even this thread didn't make you feel relief because of your personal failures!

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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 07:30 PM   #230
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This thread is a joke. Graf overlooked? Only by people (generally Seles fanatics) who would like play revisionist history and spin ever increasing number of "what if" scenarios from their overheated imaginations. Graf is one of, if not the, GOAT. End of story.
Graf overlooked by Seles nutters? On the contrary, Seles nutters are obsessed with Graf 24/7, while they sleep, while they eat, while they work, while they they breath, while they pee. Sad that people who dislike Graf still make their entire sad excuses of a life all about here.
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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 08:11 PM   #231
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Graf overlooked by Seles nutters? On the contrary, Seles nutters are obsessed with Graf 24/7, while they sleep, while they eat, while they work, while they they breath, while they pee. Sad that people who dislike Graf still make their entire sad excuses of a life all about here.
Of course they are...That's why they, disguised as Graf fans, try to make her being overlooked by just stating that she is...Of course, when ask them why, they don't have the answer as they don't know what to say and not being funny because every poll result shows otherwise...

For example, this thread starter didn't ask "is she overlooked?", but rather asked "WHY is she overlooked?" which implies that already she is indeed ... but this soon proved to be a fail mission!

The final result should be her down-gradation of her greatest position on (future)polls due to making people somehow believe she is overlooked indeed and as such not so much a worthy contender for the highest spot when they think to whom the should vote and why...

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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 10:52 PM   #232
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Graf is the GOAT. End of story.
True!
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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 11:47 PM   #233
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

I dont consider Graf the GOAT but it has nothing to do with the Seles stabbing, especialy as I consider Seles an exagerrated player anyway, not ever someone who was going to dominate the game for 5-10 years. Navratilova at 29 and older was still often beating Graf. Based on that it is hard to believe for me Graf really has more ability than her. Serena I also watch and think she would have crushed Graf prime to prime. So for me those two are just better than Graf. Graf for me is probably 3rd.
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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 11:50 PM   #235
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This is true as well. I have never heard a GOAT argument where Graf isnt brought up and those who dont think she is or pick someone havent had to give an explanation involving her name. Also while I dont think she is, most people have thought for the last 15 years or so she is the GOAT and still do today. So it is stupid to talk about her being overlooked in the GOAT debate. OP is probably an overzealous Graf fan who is annoyed at the 20% of people who dare consider someone other than their goddess a GOAT.
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Old Sep 25th, 2012, 01:18 AM   #236
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So for me those two are just better than Graf.
It's not a point who do you think is better,but who is greater...You must be always better than the others to be more and more greater!

And greater is just the one who more often brings better!

If we talk about who is better,it's very subjective.As you brought Serena,one people could compare them to other players and say :"Yeah, but for me Bammer,Sanchez-Vicario and Tiantian Sun are better tennis players than Serena because she has a very bad record against them(2-7)." which is, of course, ridiculous...but as there subjectivity takes place there is no space to argue about as we all think different just based on our subjectivity!

That's why greatness is measured just based on accomplished records and results.

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Old Sep 25th, 2012, 01:22 AM   #237
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This is true as well. I have never heard a GOAT argument where Graf isnt brought up and those who dont think she is or pick someone havent had to give an explanation involving her name. Also while I dont think she is, most people have thought for the last 15 years or so she is the GOAT and still do today. So it is stupid to talk about her being overlooked in the GOAT debate. OP is probably an overzealous Graf fan who is annoyed at the 20% of people who dare consider someone other than their goddess a GOAT.
Or a Seles fan in disguise who just wanted to take a backhanded swipe at Graf.
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Old Sep 25th, 2012, 01:36 AM   #238
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Or a Seles fan in disguise who just wanted to take a backhanded swipe at Graf.
What I think also!

If he was a Graf fan,he wouldn't be basically "offended" by the proves that he is wrong!

Instead he denies the truth and he just sticks to his empty tongue and begins over and over again with no other proof other then his word which is meaningless in case you don't have anything to support it!
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Old Sep 25th, 2012, 01:49 AM   #239
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Navratilova at 29 and older was still often beating Graf.
Just like Bammer,who,at 29 also,straight setted 2nd seeded Serena in Cincy after winning their previous meeting...

That's why one must be cautious not to mix words like better and greater!
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She isn't overlooked. Period, end of sentence, thread closed.
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