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Old Nov 20th, 2012, 06:36 PM   #451
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Hedberg, Has you seen on : http://www.cmore.se/bestall/sport

Has there always had that WTA info?

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Yes, I think they have always had the same text. A friend of mine emailed them, but no answer yet. They are quite bad at answering questions about their programming. But at this point it seems there is no deal with the WTA. And I doubt there will be. At least no full coverage.
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The WTA is desperate to get a title sponsor and are screwing their TV deals. Bunch of geniuses.
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Old Nov 20th, 2012, 08:05 PM   #453
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Thanks. Sorry but this is ridiculous. These WTA-clowns have really no idea what they're doing.
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Old Nov 20th, 2012, 08:11 PM   #454
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WTA has sold the Rights can they care much about Perform can't resale it...


But we get the buy the tennis on tennistv.com it seems countries without coverage, but I am pretty sure we in DEN get the see Caro's matches on TV somehow...
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That article is clearly biased though and only looking at one side of the coin. Tennis is dead in Germany. There is no mini-boom. We are talking about 200k (female) to 750k people (male) that watch a Grand Slam final in tennis. A regular bobsled world cup pulls twice those numbers and lasts about an hour. You expect a two week commitment of full programming to peak at 200k once. In a very simplistic way: These last 200k WTA Grand Slam final viewers left are hardcore tennis fans. Say 50k are willing and capable to pay 10 Euros a months for tennis pay-tv exclusively, that makes six million Euros a year from just the German pay TV market. Eurosport paid 10 million for all of Europe.
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Say 50k are willing and capable to pay 10 Euros a months for tennis pay-tv exclusively, that makes six million Euros a year from just the German pay TV market. Eurosport paid 10 million for all of Europe.
The way things are going it could be also 0 euros. It seems no tv-channel is even interested about those WTA rights.
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The way things are going it could be also 0 euros. It seems no tv-channel is even interested about those WTA rights.
They already sold to MCS group (France, Belgium, etc) and sport1 (Netherland). Probably this alone close to the size of the old Eurosport contract if they really asked that high price.
Add a possible UK and Italian contract and its easily more thna Eurosport paid for years.
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They already sold to MCS group (France, Belgium, etc) and sport1 (Netherland). Probably this alone close to the size of the old Eurosport contract if they really asked that high price.
Add a possible UK and Italian contract and its easily more thna Eurosport paid for years.
Possible UK and Italian contracts? That really sounds like a business plan. Nothing in Scandinavia either. Germany is out of the question at this point.

Hard to see that the sport1 deal could be very lucrative. WTA tennis in the Netherlands isn't exactly the hottest brand. They won't get any big bucks in Scandinavia either. Hard to believe they could ever achieve something like 20 million.

Okay, they get a bit more money and virtually very limited coverage? Makes the brand so much intresting for the next contract? ATP is already killing them and this isn't helping.

It's very logical that Eurosport didn't want to pay 20 million. The product just isn't worth it.
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Possible UK and Italian contracts? That really sounds like a business plan. Nothing in Scandinavia either. Germany is out of the question at this point.

Hard to see that the sport1 deal could be very lucrative. WTA tennis in the Netherlands isn't exactly the hottest brand. They won't get any big bucks in Scandinavia either. Hard to believe they could ever achieve something like 20 million.

Okay, they get a bit more money and virtually very limited coverage? Makes the brand so much intresting for the next contract? ATP is already killing them and this isn't helping.

It's very logical that Eurosport didn't want to pay 20 million. The product just isn't worth it.
Where is ATP killing what? What free TV coverage does the ATP get in Europe? Why are the Grand Slam rights for three majors in Europe sold to small Eurosport, when the ATP is such a hot seller? It will get worse, when Nadal and Federer retire. Djoker and Murray couldn´t draw **** for their US Open final. Tennis and baseball are the two most TV unfriendly sports in the world.
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Where is ATP killing what? What free TV coverage does the ATP get in Europe? Why are the Grand Slam rights for three majors in Europe sold to small Eurosport, when the ATP is such a hot seller? It will get worse, when Nadal and Federer retire. Djoker and Murray couldn´t draw **** for their US Open final. Tennis and baseball are the two most TV unfriendly sports in the world.
ATP is killing WTA. No one is comparing it with soccer. It isn't really that difficult.

ATP gets good money for their contracts and they have no problem finding partners. Sky Sports in England is a good example. In France and Spain their market is also good. The WTA on the other hand is trying to find some obscure channels and Christmas is just around the corner. It's pretty safe to say ATP is miles away from the WTA.

Grand Slams have nothing to do with the ATP. Eurosport and EBU are close.

Eurosport has obviously made a decision to invest in those Slams. If they would have to choose between investing in Grand Slams or the WTA, well that's a no-brainer.

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The product just isn't worth it.
Obviously thats why you do nothing on this board just trolling in this thread.
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Obviously thats why you do nothing on this board just trolling in this thread.
I disagree sir. Just stating the facts. If you have some hard evidence how the WTA is manhandling the ATP, then feel free to show them. Your posts have been pretty useless. I know we can't all be geniuses, can we? But try to raise your game.
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I disagree sir. Just stating the facts. If you have some hard evidence how the WTA is manhandling the ATP, then feel free to show them. Your posts have been pretty useless. I know we can't all be geniuses, can we? But try to raise your game.
I can show those kind of facts too, like how ATP would do lot of things to have active american and chinese slam champions. See, "facts".

But nice try derailing the conversation. ATP is unimportant here.
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I can show those kind of facts too, like how ATP would do lot of things to have active american and chinese slam champions. See, "facts".

But nice try derailing the conversation. ATP is unimportant here.
C'mon, don't bullshit me. Of course ATP is relevant if we're talking about global sports rights.

Okay Mr. Company Man, why can't the WTA reach a decent tv contract in time? It's obvious they were supposed to have something to announce in Istanbul. Instead we got some kind of monologue without any real information. It's not very convincing.
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