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Old Oct 8th, 2012, 04:55 AM   #91
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

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True in a way, but her sophomore slump is the same thing that happened to other players that went on to become great.

She is still growing into things and has a lot of upside to tap into. Although, I wish she had just been able to get her hands on Azarenka so she could bury her.

It's overreacting to write her off.
Ding ding ding.

Serena went 2.5 years between her first and second slam. Let's see what happens. Not fair to call her a disappointment - yet.
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

I can see Greg Garber's argument Petra didn't have a GREAT 2012 but she was consistent semifinalist at the Australian and French Opens, quarterfinalist at Wimbledon, fourth round at US Open.

After the incredible 2011, the media expected Petra to keep it up and dominate the game that did NOT happen.

The Sharapova match at the Australian Open was SO CLOSE but the problem was I think Petra felt the pressure if she won that match she would have reached number one. I think Petra crumbled under the pressure and she hasn't been the same since.

Petra did win two titles this year so she does have some consistency now. I think the problem for Petra is her fitness and I cannot believe people make excuses but the girl needs to get into much better physical shape. I think against Bartoli, Petra was tired because she won so much she played too much tennis winning Montreal, and New Haven, and also reaching semifinals of Cincinatti. She needs to really give 150% on her fitness lose the baby fat.

Petra also might also need to give more margin on her shots and maybe play some doubles and come to net more.

I think Petra is more naturally talented than Victoria BUT I see that Victoria has dedicated herself to fitness she is in amaazing physical shape.

If Petra can improve her fitness I believe her results will improve.
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Old Oct 8th, 2012, 05:20 AM   #94
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

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She was supposed to dominate this year, but she flopped, and she is the biggest disapointment this year for me, by far.

What is the most shocking is that she is MUCH MORE talented than the current world number 1, as proved when they faced last year on the tour. But the current number 1 is better prepared physically, that explains her higher ranking compared to Petra.

100% of people know that if Kvitova is playing her best, the current number 1 doesn´t stand a chance, since Petra game is to finish points quickly with the winner, opposed to the grinding game style.
I agree with this comment Victoria seems more determined that Petra to be honest. Victoria is talented but she doesn't have the explosive power that Petra has. Petra's serve is superior and so are her groundstrokes.

However, Victoria is a serious athlete the girl can run she has good variety and she definitely hits the gym she is in great shape.

The fitness is the key for Petra she can't give 70% off the court she needs to lose that gut and get toned and get into top physical condition.

The better fit Petra is the better her movement is going to be on the court.
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

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I agree with this comment Victoria seems more determined that Petra to be honest. Victoria is talented but she doesn't have the explosive power that Petra has. Petra's serve is superior and so are her groundstrokes.

However, Victoria is a serious athlete the girl can run she has good variety and she definitely hits the gym she is in great shape.

The fitness is the key for Petra she can't give 70% off the court she needs to lose that gut and get toned and get into top physical condition.

The better fit Petra is the better her movement is going to be on the court.
Yeah, a fit Petra and with confidence in her shots will be a very dificult opponent for anyone.
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

She got blindsided by Azarenka, totally, everyone expected Kvitova to dominate this year after the end of the last one, but Azarenka took that spot and stole the show. It was unpredictable at the end of the last year, but now it's true and we see that Azarenka is a more stable player than Kvitova, who seems to have shone only once.
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She got blindsided by Azarenka, totally, everyone expected Kvitova to dominate this year after the end of the last one, but Azarenka took that spot and stole the show. It was unpredictable at the end of the last year, but now it's true and we see that Azarenka is a more stable player than Kvitova, who seems to have shone only once.


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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

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Ding ding ding.

Serena went 2.5 years between her first and second slam. Let's see what happens. Not fair to call her a disappointment - yet.
Serena won her first at 17/18..Petra won her first at age 21. Don't have the luxury, but the point is good.
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

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I can see Greg Garber's argument Petra didn't have a GREAT 2012 but she was consistent semifinalist at the Australian and French Opens, quarterfinalist at Wimbledon, fourth round at US Open.

After the incredible 2011, the media expected Petra to keep it up and dominate the game that did NOT happen.

The Sharapova match at the Australian Open was SO CLOSE but the problem was I think Petra felt the pressure if she won that match she would have reached number one. I think Petra crumbled under the pressure and she hasn't been the same since.

Petra did win two titles this year so she does have some consistency now. I think the problem for Petra is her fitness and I cannot believe people make excuses but the girl needs to get into much better physical shape. I think against Bartoli, Petra was tired because she won so much she played too much tennis winning Montreal, and New Haven, and also reaching semifinals of Cincinatti. She needs to really give 150% on her fitness lose the baby fat.

Petra also might also need to give more margin on her shots and maybe play some doubles and come to net more.

I think Petra is more naturally talented than Victoria BUT I see that Victoria has dedicated herself to fitness she is in amaazing physical shape.

If Petra can improve her fitness I believe her results will improve.
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

The worrisome thing for Petra is even when she played well this year she still lost to Serena and Sharapova. The feeling before this year was when Petra played well she would usually win the title, but that was not the case. She didnt play Azarenka but one would think looking at their success she probably would have lost to her too. Add to that she has still has periods of inconsistency, while she has gotten better with that, and she has her work cut out fo rher.
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

I hope she gets in shape during the offseason by some serious workouts unlike her Turkey or Czech Spa camps
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

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The worrisome thing for Petra is even when she played well this year she still lost to Serena and Sharapova. The feeling before this year was when Petra played well she would usually win the title, but that was not the case. She didnt play Azarenka but one would think looking at their success she probably would have lost to her too. Add to that she has still has periods of inconsistency, while she has gotten better with that, and she has her work cut out fo rher.
Yeah, she "played well" leading up to those matches, but no where near what she played last year.

I shouldn't have to break it down, but Petra's level was not comparable.

In addition to her actual play, Petra's injuries, illnesses, adjusting to her new found fame, responsibilities and expectations, etc., has to be taken in consideration as well.

Azarenka was already a top 10 player for the last few years, and hadn't won a slam. And when she finally won one and became number one--no one noticed or had any expectations for her (no pressure), cause she wasn't the one being tapped by the media.

Even now, many tennis die hards and media still don't take her seriously, cause they don't feel she has the game to dominate. That helps her.

As far as Petra, we'll see where the next 3 months-two years takes her?
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Yeah, she "played well" leading up to those matches, but no where near what she played last year.

I shouldn't have to break it down, but Petra's level was not comparable.

In addition to her actual play, Petra's injuries, illnesses, adjusting to her new found fame, responsibilities and expectations, etc., has to be taken in consideration as well.

Azarenka was already a top 10 player for the last few years, and hadn't won a slam. And when she finally won one and became number one--no one noticed or had any expectations for her (no pressure), cause she wasn't the one being tapped by the media.

Even now, many tennis die hards and media still don't take her seriously, cause they don't feel she has the game to dominate. That helps her.

As far as Petra, we'll see where the next 3 months-two years takes her?
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Ludmila playing very well would beat Vuvuzenka on any surface, not just the one's where she has the obvious advantages. But she's barely played well all year.

I expect that there's still big things to come in the coming years. This year was meh, but she still made 2 slam SFs, and won a P5. If that's the disappointing bit then she's got nothing to worry about.
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Re: Greg Garber(ESPN): "Petra Kvitova - the biggest disappointment"

Biggest dissapointment, by what standars ?
That she isnt number one this year and hasnt won 4 GS ?
She is still number 5 in the world, two semis in GS, has won
two titles and earned over 2 million dollars in prize money this year.
all this plus having several injuries that have obviously affected her game.
People should leave her alone a bit,at least until next year, but I agree that fitness is a big issue
for her that she´ll have to sort out sooner or later.
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