[brickhousesupporter]

Originally Posted by NashaMasha

I had known about Shirley Fry long before you brought her anywhere. And she is in top 100 Tennischannel , despite they didn;t include a numbed of players who played that time
Moreover I've already given 3 reasons why SFI is not on the same level as Maria Sharapova. She is on the level of Agassi in 1995

[doomsday]

Originally Posted by young_gunner913

I don't know why Justine quit. Maybe Debris can fill us in. I have my opinion but that's already well known. I don't like Justine but to say she's not a fighter is complete bullshit. Just because Martha has a career slam doesn't make her a better player than Justine. Justine's resume shits on Martha's. The career slam is an amazing achievement but in no way does it make one blind enough to the fact that Martha has 4 slams to Justine's 7.

Why were you praising Justine for quitting in a major final? She is the only player(male or female) to ever do that. That's not a sign of a great champion if you ask me, retiring at the top, and I can go on....
I'm just saying what separate Justine from Maria is that Pova is a player who always believe in herself no matter what people say or no matter how bad she loses, she knows she is a great competitor. I'm not saying that Henin wasn't but she has an history of quitting when things get tough.

[young_gunner913]

Originally Posted by doomsday

Why were you praising Justine for quitting in a major final? She is the only player(male or female) to ever do that. That's not a sign of a great champion if you ask me, retiring at the top, and I can go on....

That was obviously a joke.

You can go on and on. All the talk in the world won't make up the gaps in Martha's resume when compared to Justine's. Like I said, the fact that she's won the career slam is an amazing achievement. But it will never make her better than Justine. The only thing she can do to become better than Justine is on the tennis court. And she's got quite a way to go.

[NashaMasha]

Originally Posted by brickhousesupporter

Sharapova now is in the top 20 women tennis players of all times.

[young_gunner913]

Originally Posted by brickhousesupporter

It's just so hilarious to see them Wikipedia a result then use it as a base for their argument.

Andre Agassi in 95 could not be a more polar opposite to 12 Sharapova. The only connection is the career slam achievement. Agassi won the AO to complete it while Martha won RG. Martha's only 2 titles outside of her slam win have come on red clay. Agassi won 6 other titles outside of his slam win and all were on hardcourt.

[DefyingGravity]

Agassi won Roland Garros in 1999 to complete the career slam.....

[NashaMasha]

Originally Posted by young_gunner913

It's just so hilarious to see them Wikipedia a result then use it as a base for their argument.

Andre Agassi in 95 could not be a more polar opposite to 12 Sharapova. The only connection is the career slam achievement. Agassi won the AO to complete it while Martha won RG. Martha's only 2 titles outside of her slam win have come on red clay. Agassi won 6 other titles outside of his slam win and all were on hardcourt.

i have already corrected to 1999 . and he won FO to complete his CGS

that time he had 4 diff GS, YEC, Olympic Gold and 10 Masters

Pova - 4 diff GS, YEC, Olympic Silver and 10 Tier I

[dsanders06]

Originally Posted by TheDream

Underhanded tactics? Surely you can't be that hypocritical considering the crap Maria pulled in the FO in the match against Kvitova. A ball was CLEARLY in, as shown on shot spot, and Maria circled a spot as if the ball was out and the umpire gave her the point unfairly. Otherwise, it would be back to deuce and that was a pivotal point in the match. Basically, she circled a spot that wasn't even there and cheated Petra willfully out of the point. Not the first time this happened, as she pulled this crap on Shahar Peer, not to mention when she laughed at her coach's vile cracks on Serena that they showed on video because Maria was getting beat. Still, the FO she pulled was most annoying.

Too bad that isn't what happened. Maria pointed to the CORRECT mark, the umpire overruled her and pointed to a different mark.

You tried.

Originally Posted by Olórin

Exactly, he's so amusing.

I've spoken to people who don't normally watch tennis but saw that final and said that Serena humiliated her. The fact Sharapova had 40-0 leads is worse because Serena was breaking at will, even if Sharapova only needed a point to win the game. She only avoided the double bagel because Serena takes full swings on the return and happened to miss too many in that one game.

Um, if Serena was "breaking at will", wouldn't she have avoided going down 40-0 in Maria's service games in the first place?

In any case, even if it is "worse" for Maria to lose her service games from 40-0 up, it doesn't change the fact that Bradbury's statement that Maria was "struggling to win points" clearly isn't true - WHICH IS WHAT THE WHOLE ARGUMENT IS ABOUT - and that if Maria was "struggling to win points" then logically Serena must also have been "struggling to win points" in the USO final before her stunt.

[TheDream]

Originally Posted by dsanders06

Too bad that isn't what happened. Maria pointed to the CORRECT mark, the umpire overruled her and pointed to a different mark.

You tried.



Um, if Serena was "breaking at will", wouldn't she have avoided going down 40-0 in Maria's service games in the first place?

In any case, even if it is "worse" for Maria to lose her service games from 40-0 up, it doesn't change the fact that Bradbury's statement that Maria was "struggling to win points" clearly isn't true - WHICH IS WHAT THE WHOLE ARGUMENT IS ABOUT - and that if Maria was "struggling to win points" then logically Serena must also have been "struggling to win points" in the USO final before her stunt.

That's a LIE. The ball was in according to shot spot, so Maria Sharapova showed the umpire the correct line and the umpire overruled because she saw a different line? Maria never pointed to the correct line, that doesn't even sound like something she or most players would do. The umpire went directly to the spot Maria was pointing too and ruled on that. Fact. Don't you have it on tape?

[doomsday]

Originally Posted by TheDream

That's a LIE. The ball was in according to shot spot, so Maria Sharapova showed the umpire the correct line and the umpire overruled because she saw a different line? Maria never pointed to the correct line, that doesn't even sound like something she or most players would do. The umpire went directly to the spot Maria was pointing too and ruled on that. Fact. Don't you have it on tape?

First Maria is an opportunist for winning the French and now she cheated her way to the title, Serena fans never cease to amaze me.

[dsanders06]

Originally Posted by TheDream

That's a LIE. The ball was in according to shot spot, so Maria Sharapova showed the umpire the correct line and the umpire overruled because she saw a different line? Maria never pointed to the correct line, that doesn't even sound like something she or most players would do. The umpire went directly to the spot Maria was pointing too and ruled on that. Fact. Don't you have it on tape?

Presumably you saw this in the same fantasy universe where Serena won the long rallies against Azrenka last week, right?

[TheDream]

Originally Posted by dsanders06

Presumably you saw this in the same fantasy universe where Serena won the long rallies against Azrenka last week, right?

I saw the match on ESPN and the commentators had a segment after it happened. Maria 100% didn't point to the right mark. I'm just going by their coverage and commentary so I don't know what they say on other networks.

I said last week that Serena won many of the long rallies against Azarenka but that was by conjecture watching the match. I never said there were any stats or anything like that because the rallies in that match were short and wasn't even really about rallying anyway. But, Serena did when most of the long rallies against Azarenka during Wimbledon, and the commentators even commentated on it. Remember, that's what you lied about saying someone posted a screen cap that Azarenka won most of the long rallies in the result thread. I searched that thread methodically and it proved you are a liar and full of shit.

[Akil]

Originally Posted by TheDream

I saw the match on ESPN and the commentators had a segment after it happened. Maria 100% didn't point to the right mark. I'm just going by their coverage and commentary so I don't know what they say on other networks.

I said last week that Serena won many of the long rallies against Azarenka but that was by conjecture watching the match. I never said there were any stats or anything like that because the rallies in that match were short and wasn't even really about rallying anyway. But, Serena did when most of the long rallies against Azarenka during Wimbledon, and the commentators even commentated on it. Remember, that's what you lied about saying someone posted a screen cap that Azarenka won most of the long rallies in the result thread. I searched that thread methodically and it proved you are a liar and full of shit.

I remember that well , he's such a filthy liar.

Originally Posted by Dumbsters06

Not being bothered enough to trawl through 30 pages of a discussion thread to find said screencap just to prove something to a troll who was banned last year =/= making it up

Originally Posted by TheDream

I meticulously re-read that thread and every post and found nothing. You made it up, lied, and got caught troll. Live with it.

[Matt01]

Originally Posted by doomsday

Why were you praising Justine for quitting in a major final? She is the only player(male or female) to ever do that. That's not a sign of a great champion if you ask me, retiring at the top, and I can go on....

Oh really? Why don't you check your stats before babbling your usual nonsense?

[Mr.Sharapova]

Originally Posted by young_gunner913

That was obviously a joke.

You can go on and on. All the talk in the world won't make up the gaps in Martha's resume when compared to Justine's. Like I said, the fact that she's won the career slam is an amazing achievement. But it will never make her better than Justine. The only thing she can do to become better than Justine is on the tennis court. And she's got quite a way to go.

Wait a minute... For your information Justine retired from tennis whereas Maria is still playing. We'll talk when Maria ends her career and then we'll see whereas Maria will make up the gaps on her resume compared to Justine or not. Until then shut the f up.