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Old Sep 7th, 2012, 10:43 PM   #31
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Agreed,but to be honest, maria is no raving beauty either.
it depends more on what considers the majority ...

Keira Knightley or Jennifer Aniston are considered beautiful , but they are not even close to this word...
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Old Sep 7th, 2012, 10:43 PM   #32
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Don't blame the messenger, it's true. Serena kicks butt all the time but Maria gets all the money cause she's white. True fact.
I take it you're young and inexperienced, hence the naive simple statement. There's racism in every corner of this globe but not in this case. Why does Tiger earn as much as he does? He's a person of color too. In entertainment it's all about what sells and what doesn't. Serena is in the same situation Tiger's in but she doesn't even earn half of what Pova is earning despite having significantly more slams. It's about markability, the it-factor. People like athletes who are well behaved and Maria is always picture perfect on and off the court. Tiger was too, until his skeletons came out. Federer would earn less if he wasn't the perfect guy. Had Serena behaved properly eg respecting opponents and line judges, I'd reckon she'd earn more because companies tend to endorse people who don't bring controversy along catch my drift? It has nothing to do with color. Having said that, women are different than men, it's more about their beauty instead of succes while with men succes is a more important factor. If Serena looked like Beyonce I'm sure her earnings would double. It's more about sexism than racism here but then again, this is a man's world. You probably would say a white man's world which is also true. Just not in this particular case. Just be happy both are icons and jewels for the sport.

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Old Sep 7th, 2012, 10:45 PM   #33
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Agreed,but to be honest, maria is no raving beauty either.

Says you. Global opinion says otherwise.
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it depends more on what considers the majority ...

Keira Knightley or Jennifer Aniston are considered beautiful , but they are not even close to this word...
Keira is a bit too skinny..but Aniston is hottt!!
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Absolutely. That is a classic case of statistics, damned statistics.

What did Andre Agassi say all those years ago? modern players only come to net to shake hands.
In what context did Agassi say that? Because he played in the era of fast courts yet he was coming to the net even less frequently than a defensive player like Djokovic does nowadays.
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The so called highest paid womens athlete is a joke among true tennis greats.
I hope all her so called fans are crying right now. Slowpover doesn't deserve the accolades she gets, she's a joke. Enjoy all those millions of dollars that those racist sponsors gave you because of the color of you're skin and not you're talent loser.
Don't care about Masha,but using the pathetic race card to suit your own purpose is a real worry for you to work through.
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Keira is a bit too skinny..but Aniston is hottt!!
Kiera's face is flawless, never got the Aniston hotness.
It really is in the eye of the beholder. Although I would admit that both are attractive.
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Great fight from Maria, unfortunately her body could not respond when she summoned it.

Her serve let her down too!!
How come? Is she too skinny now?

(Just teasing...)
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I take it you're young and inexperienced, hence the naive simple statement. There's racism in every corner of this globe but not in this case. Why does Tiger earn as much as he does? He's a person of color too. In entertainment it's all about what sells and what doesn't. Serena is in the same situation Tiger's in but she doesn't even earn half of what Pova is earning despite having significantly more slams. It's about markability, the it-factor. People like athletes who are well behaved and Maria is always picture perfect on and off the court. Tiger was too, until his skeletons came out. Federer would earn less if he wasn't the perfect guy. Had Serena behaved properly eg respecting opponents and line judges, I'd reckon she'd earn more because companies tend to endorse people who don't bring controversy along catch my drift? It has nothing to do with color. Having said that, women are different than men, it's more about their beauty instead of succes while with men succes is a more important factor. If Serena looked like Beyonce I'm sure her earnings would double. It's more about sexism than racism here but then again, this is a man's world. You probably would say a white man's world which is also true. Just not in this particular case. Just be happy both are icons and jewels for the sport.

I hate racism of every sort, even reverse racism like you're guilty of.
SOOOOOOO tired of that whole respecting line judges. What's the thing?! Show me one player who hasn't had issues with umpires. Stop the nonsense.
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In what context did Agassi say that? Because he played in the era of fast courts yet he was coming to the net even less frequently than a defensive player like Djokovic does nowadays.
I know, but Agassi is a character which is why people loved him. But there were plenty grinders 20 years ago who were successful. Jim Courier, Sergei Brugera, Thomas Muster, Michael Chang, there were a lot of different types of players in the top 20 back then - aggressive baseliners, defensive baseliners, all court players and specialist serve volleyers, ok and a few ace heads

But Agassi made his comment before 2001 Wimbledon, at that stage a new breed of players were coming thorugh like Safin, Hewitt, Clement, Ferrero, Roddick, Haas and others who were not going to come in much. Federer mixed it up initially but settled on baseline play once he realised courts were getting slower.
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I take it you're young and inexperienced, hence the naive simple statement. There's racism in every corner of this globe but not in this case. Why does Tiger earn as much as he does? He's a person of color too. In entertainment it's all about what sells and what doesn't. Serena is in the same situation Tiger's in but she doesn't even earn half of what Pova is earning despite having significantly more slams. It's about markability, the it-factor. People like athletes who are well behaved and Maria is always picture perfect on and off the court. Tiger was too, until his skeletons came out. Federer would earn less if he wasn't the perfect guy. Had Serena behaved properly eg respecting opponents and line judges, I'd reckon she'd earn more because companies tend to endorse people who don't bring controversy along catch my drift? It has nothing to do with color. Having said that, women are different than men, it's more about their beauty instead of succes while with men succes is a more important factor. If Serena looked like Beyonce I'm sure her earnings would double. It's more about sexism than racism here but then again, this is a man's world. You probably would say a white man's world which is also true. Just not in this particular case. Just be happy both are icons and jewels for the sport.

I hate racism of every sort, even reverse racism like you're guilty of.
Don't even try that reverse racism crazy on me son.., you sure you're don't work for fox news?
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SOOOOOOO tired of that whole respecting line judges. What's the thing?! Show me one player who hasn't had issues with umpires. Stop the nonsense.
there's having issues, and then there's threatening to shove a ball down somebody's throat.

it's on tape
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Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

Can you guys stop the fights.

How did money, beauty and race come into this?
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I know, but Agassi is a character which is why people loved him. But there were plenty grinders 20 years ago who were successful. Jim Courier, Sergei Brugera, Thomas Muster, Michael Chang, there were a lot of different types of players in the top 20 back then - aggressive baseliners, defensive baseliners, all court players and specialist serve volleyers, ok and a few ace heads

But Agassi made his comment before 2001 Wimbledon, at that stage a new breed of players were coming thorugh like Safin, Hewitt, Clement, Ferrero, Roddick, Haas and others who were not going to come in much. Federer mixed it up initially but settled on baseline play once he realised courts were getting slower.
I blame ever-improving racket string technology and Ivanisevic winning a slam for slowing down the courts. Watching Fed vs Sampras you could see he had a complete game for fast courts, it's a wonder he adapted so well. No wonder though he murders his current competition during ATP finals in London.
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How come? Is she too skinny now?

(Just teasing...)
Even though you are teasing, I will answer anyway.

NO. She looks like a true athlete, more now than a few years ago.
Maria is going in opposite direction of some other player [...]
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