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Old Sep 5th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #196
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No it doesn't make sense. If you are too sorry to bring your best from the first set, you deserve to lose if you can't step it up for the next two sets. How well you play on any given day applies to 3 sets or 5 sets.
You think DelPo didn't deserve his USO '09 title? Or if you're a Fed fan who really thinks like that, I want to remind that with that logic, Fed didn't deserve his Wim '09 title. Would you really have liked to have those matches over in three sets? I'd rather have Bo5 for women than Bo3 for men.
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Old Sep 5th, 2012, 06:26 PM   #197
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no, just check the statistics of ATP tour and compare how random are results in 3 sets in comparison to 5 sets

Beat Djokovic, Federer or Nadal in 5 sets is almost impossible , whereas in 3 sets even Roddick managed this year
Then maybe the big three should step up their 3 set game. And the only place they play five is at the slams. So should their other titles be thrown out?
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Old Sep 5th, 2012, 06:30 PM   #198
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You think DelPo didn't deserve his USO '09 title? Or if you're a Fed fan who really thinks like that, I want to remind that with that logic, Fed didn't deserve his Wim '09 title. Would you really have liked to have those matches over in three sets? I'd rather have Bo5 for women than Bo3 for men.
If you play three sets and don't bring your A game yes you deserve to lose if you don't win the next two.

Playing best of three means that you don't have "cushion" sets to round ass in. If you lose the first set in a best of three, the pressure is much more intense than losing the first set in a best of five.
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Old Sep 5th, 2012, 06:37 PM   #199
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why would i want to play a long 5 setter myself to tire myself out for my next opponent just to get at my current opponent??? i'd extend rallies as much as possible to wear his legs down definitely, but i wouldn't be trying to play a long 5 setter by tanking when i have another opponent who may be fresh that's idiocy...why would i NOT give my best to get off court quickly

i still don't get how just because you can tank more sets means you're putting in more effort..some men are VERY unfit, have poor tactics, ballbash, etc that we criticise the women of...just because they have 5 sets to display how poor they are doesn't mean it's more quality
I never said that deliberately going for 5 sets is a smart tactic Who knows what those mugs are thinking when they tank few sets
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Playing best of three means that you don't have "cushion" sets to round ass in. If you lose the first set in a best of three, the pressure is much more intense than losing the first set in a best of five.
Well, think about the pressure when you're two sets down. I know, Bo3 would give more pressure for top players and bring more surprise wins, but is it the purpose of slams? I don't think so, I think slams are enough interesting without surprises, I want to see who is the best, which can't properly be decided with Bo3. And Bo5 makes surprise wins more deserved.

The only thing I don't like in Bo5 is that it's gotten too much of a endurance thing, slower surfaces mean longer points. But solution is simple, speed up the courts.
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Re: Tipsarevic continues to be pressed about women's tennis

Djokovic blowing latest mug off the court. Gonna end faster than the first two women's quarters.
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Djokovic blowing latest mug off the court. Gonna end faster than the first two women's quarters.
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Re: Tipsarevic continues to be pressed about women's tennis

The best of 5 sets is not played in the Master Series. If those results aren't definitive enough what's the point of the tour. It sucks so bad in a grand slam when someone is playing say an electrifying 5 setter and then their next match then go down in 3 easy sets because the last one they haven't recovered from, then what's the point.

Enough of the best of 5 in the grand slams and save it to the finals for both men and women.
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Mug was injured
So he wasn't fit? Shouldn't been on the court. (What Janko would say if it were women.)
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So he wasn't fit? Shouldn't been on the court. (What Janko would say if it were women.)
Probably something like "Yuck, women aren't even capable of finishing their best-of-3 matches"
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The best of 5 sets is not played in the Master Series. If those results aren't definitive enough what's the point of the tour. It sucks so bad in a grand slam when someone is playing say an electrifying 5 setter and then their next match then go down in 3 easy sets because the last one they haven't recovered from, then what's the point.
There are a couple of reasons why M1000s are played with Bo3. First of all, in slams you usually play every second day, in M100s you play every day, thus you have less recovery time and bo5 would be too much. And M1000s prestige is far below slams, fluke champios aren't such a bad thing, so you can have more TV channel friendly Bo3 format.

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Enough of the best of 5 in the grand slams and save it to the finals for both men and women.
Why final should be any different, there have been many tournaments where eventual champion's toughest opposition has been in SF.
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That’s the question posed by Doug Robson in a USA Today story about the growing income gap between the top men and the rest of the field. Robson crunches the numbers and finds that over the past five years, the Top 3 have taken home between 20 and 26 percent of available prize money, more than any trio since the ATP was re-launched in 1990. ATP chief Brad Drewett chalks it up to their domination on court, but some lower-ranked players think it’s a trend that’s getting worse and needs to be addressed.

Prize money has risen more quickly on the main tour than it has the Challenger tour. Roger Federer says that tournaments like the huge winner’s check because it’s “sexy”; last year Larry Ellison added $700,000 to the pot at his tournament in Indian Wells, but stipulated that it had to go to the players who made the quarterfinals or better.

One player who defends the system is American Ryan Harrison. “People don’t love tennis because of Challenger-level tennis,” he says. “People don’t follow the Challenger players. It’s a stepping stone that’s a process you know you have to go through.”
i will add " People don't love tennis because of Tipsarevic/Stakhovsky-level of tennis"
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Mug was injured
Did Mug injure himself playing unneccesary best of 5 matches in the first week?
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i will add " People don't love tennis because of Tipsarevic/Stakhovsky-level of tennis"
We can also add that people who watch only finals are not tennis fans. If you like tennis, you will watch lower-ranked players as well.
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Re: Tipsarevic continues to be pressed about women's tennis

Janko would say: How DOES the #1 seed go out of the tournament before the semis! (Berdych d. Federer).
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