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Old Aug 31st, 2014, 07:49 PM   #1
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NEW TT BOARD MEMBERS NEEDED - Come In And Apply Here Until 7th September!!

Potential candidates so far:

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Frederik

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As most of you will know, Chris 84 has decided to quit the TT board after years of service and hard work for the game (thanks again for that, Chris )

This leaves a TT board position open and this is your chance to apply for it.

The successful poster doesn´t need to be specifically assigned to one thing in particular (but preferably takes over the SE thread from Chris) but if they have any ideas as to what they want to do, they can voice them in this thread or after being elected.

Apart from that, the new member has to do the usual TT board tasks (answering questions in the ATB thread, check tournament threads for mistakes, help managers, working on new rules, awards etc.)

If this interests you, then make a post in this thread before next Sunday night (7th September) CEST, and people who want the position will go into a vote at that point that every TT player can vote in.

The board reserves the right to refuse people if we think that they are unsuitable candidates - but this would be done before the vote.

Please add a few words to your application in this thread, tell us why you think that you are the right man (or woman ) for the TT board, declare your interest, etc. but other than that, please don't spam the thread!

Please don't come in to post in the thread unless you are either putting yourself forward, or have a question to ask the board or one of the potential candidates.
You can still show your support to one of the applicants later in the voting thread! (as soon as the voting is up)


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Old Aug 31st, 2014, 07:55 PM   #2
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i nominate laszio (valac222)
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Old Aug 31st, 2014, 08:02 PM   #3
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please DON´T nominate anyone here, those who want to become a member will post in this thread and then TT players can vote for their candidates in a separate thread in which we will have a poll!

and no problem Randy, just said it again that others don´t do it same like you did!
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Old Aug 31st, 2014, 08:09 PM   #4
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Hi

I'm gonna do a few words, but most of it is already known..
I've been playing this game for about 1.5 years and managing for over a year (recently the US Open). I know most (nobody can know everything ) of the rules. I like to help to improve this game where necessary.

Good luck picking and also to the other candidates
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Re: NEW TT BOARD MEMBER NEEDED - Come In And Apply Here Until 7th September!!

I want to be a new board member, I can do experience from MTF as board member.
Also I will happy to do SE thread
Also can help with managers thread.
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If this interests you, then make a post in this thread before next Sunday night (7th September) CEST, and people who want the position will go into a vote at that point that every TT player can vote in.
I think we should not vote for new board member, this is not a popularity contest. Board should agree between themselves who will be new board member.
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I think we should not vote for new board member, this is not a popularity contest. Board should agree between themselves who will be new board member.
It is not a dictatorship either. There should be a full board election every few years anyway. Meelis might be the only board member who was actually elected in a general election right now and that was 5 years ago.

I'm not saying the current board is doing a bad job (at all). The hunger to run tournaments, making the ranks etc ends up disappearing after a few months/years and the people who should be in the board rotate once in a while.

(this should probably be in the 2015 rules changes thread or something )
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Old Aug 31st, 2014, 10:32 PM   #8
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It is not a dictatorship either. There should be a full board election every few years anyway. Meelis might be the only board member who was actually elected in a general election right now and that was 5 years ago.

The last time there was a vacancy I applied in an open to all selection process and nobody else applied.
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I would like to be a board member

Not many of you may know me, but I have been playing for nearly a near now and have managed many tournaments so I have the necessary experience.

I'm always pretty willing to help out anywhere and I can provide a different time zone than the other board members (I'm from the US).

Not really sure what else to say but hope you will take me and everyone else into consideration
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There was a vote for Michael! too.

Tempting I had my reasons to leave but I know I don't plan on having those same obligations again any time soon.
But I don't know how people would feel about that. If anyone (who doesn't hate me) thinks I shouldn't apply, I won't.
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It is not a dictatorship either. There should be a full board election every few years anyway. Meelis might be the only board member who was actually elected in a general election right now and that was 5 years ago.

I'm not saying the current board is doing a bad job (at all). The hunger to run tournaments, making the ranks etc ends up disappearing after a few months/years and the people who should be in the board rotate once in a while.

(this should probably be in the 2015 rules changes thread or something )
It is not dictatorship when 4 board members decide who can help them with running game.

Board member should be someone who is willing to help the game, to take unpopular actions. And not someone who has many friends among TT players, and to say "hey I am board member and I don´t do anything", as some admins on this forum who have an administrator sign for decoration.

In the past we have seen that Michael was many times attacked for his decisions, because there are always two sides, and you never can satisfy both sides. That's why we need someone like that, someone who has balls to do right thing when needed.

Frederik was good board member, but he probably would not have a chance to win majority of votes because he is not so popular among the players.
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Board should be voted regularly. On the other hand they should be voted TO MAKE DECISIONS. It is a bit stupid to have board to set up voting for TT related issues. There is no need to have Board to do rankings , SE lists etc.
It is (should be) kind of parlaimental democracy. You elect your representatives to make decisions.
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There was a vote for Michael! too.
I'm not saying that the other people weren't voted. I defend that there should be a full-board election (meaning you elect 5 new/old members) once in a while and I have always defended so.

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It is not dictatorship when 4 board members decide who can help them with running game.

Board member should be someone who is willing to help the game, to take unpopular actions. And not someone who has many friends among TT players, and to say "hey I am board member and I don´t do anything", as some admins on this forum who have an administrator sign for decoration.

In the past we have seen that Michael was many times attacked for his decisions, because there are always two sides, and you never can satisfy both sides. That's why we need someone like that, someone who has balls to do right thing when needed.

Frederik was good board member, but he probably would not have a chance to win majority of votes because he is not so popular among the players.
Your two examples make no sense to this discussion at all. Whoever is on the board has to take rough decisions whether they were voted, chosen by the rest of the board etc. I stand by my point, there should be a general election where a full board is elected every few years or so. Kind of what is happening with this thread only for the entire board.

Besides all that, being on the board doesn't even give you all that work, whether people like to hear it or not. Those 5 members aren't obliged to run anything. They just have to give an opinion once in a while. Actually, only one of them has to give his opinion.
What really gives you work are the rankings and that person wasn't always on the board anyway.
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In the past members often weren´t voted into the board as it was not possible or suitable to have a voting (Frederik,Adey,Joe,Sexysova) but this time the board agreed that the best solution would be to have a public vote.

Beside that, as I mentioned above, the board has the chance to refuse candidates if we think that this person is not suitable at all.

But as I said, this thread should be mainly for those who apply, so if you have further questions, please use the ATB thread or suggest changes (incl changes when it comes to how to vote for the board) in the suggestions thread for 2015, thanks!

Thanks Igor, good to know that I have balls!
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Your two examples make no sense to this discussion at all. Whoever is on the board has to take rough decisions whether they were voted, chosen by the rest of the board etc.
Yes, every board member should take rough decisions, and that is why board needs to decide who is able for that job. If we have voting people will vote for someone because he is their friend, and not because he is man for the job.

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Besides all that, being on the board doesn't even give you all that work, whether people like to hear it or not. Those 5 members aren't obliged to run anything. They just have to give an opinion once in a while.
Try all the time.

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Actually, only one of them has to give his opinion.
Then why we need a board? Let's have a president who will be voted once in two years.

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I stand by my point, there should be a general election where a full board is elected every few years or so. Kind of what is happening with this thread only for the entire board.
Ok, we have general election and Michael and four popular TT players become new board members. Then we have Michael is the only one who responds to questions in "Ask the board" thread. Others, when they see the question, say Michael will solve this. Michael then decide to go to Spain for 10 days at vacation. What happens next? Some not-so-experienced manager needs urgent help with something and nobody respond to question because they are not sure what to do.

You can stand by your point, I will stand by my.
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