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Old Sep 26th, 2012, 04:55 AM   #1786
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I'm not going to name people, but I wish people would just shut up and stop acting like they know anything about tennis is that thread
The thread about JJ in GM?
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Old Sep 26th, 2012, 04:58 AM   #1787
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BTW Ana looks even skinnier than before, are you worried?
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Old Sep 26th, 2012, 05:05 AM   #1788
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You don't have to name "them". Sometimes I wonder if "they" ever watch tennis. If "they" do, the lack of intelligence is the only explanation, sadly.

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Yes and it gets worse after every vacation she takes. So, she obviously doesn't work hard, but starving herself. It's not just worrying, it's also annoying.
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You don't have to name "them". Sometimes I wonder if "they" ever watch tennis. If "they" do, the lack of intelligence is the only explanation, sadly.
"They" probably don't realize that Sanchez-Vicario was at the top of the game for over 10 years despite her defensive gamestyle. But even she wasn't purely 'defensive'.
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"They" probably don't realize that Sanchez-Vicario was at the top of the game for over 10 years despite her defensive gamestyle. But even she wasn't purely 'defensive'.
Not to mention "their" complete inability to distinct playing styles. All the players who have some defensive skills play the same way according to "them".
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lol them "them" and "theirs" are killing me.
He posts so much in that thread, I just assumed he was a closet JJ fan
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I'm not going to name people, but I wish people would just shut up and stop acting like they know anything about tennis is that thread
They probably even never hold a racquet in their hand and they're trying to write posts like they are f%cking Nick Bollettieri.
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Don't let them get Ya mad in that stupid Thread, it getting too the point where they named every defensive player In the book now, Hope JJ come back Better then ever 2013 for there Azz
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Don't let them get Ya mad in that stupid Thread, it getting too the point where they named every defensive player In the book how, Hope JJ come back Better then ever 2013 for there Azz
I don't think you can really get mad while reading such posts, it's more that those posts are shocking in a way, because you expect people who post on this board every day for years to know a bit more about the game, about its history. Of course, you can't have all the answers, all the explanations, but comparing apples to oranges all the time looks so ridiculous. Especially if you take yourself and your opinion too seriously and it looks like "they" do. Though I'm still trying to figure out if "they" really mean all that or if it's just some new advanced trolling level.
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I just realized that dsanders guy has Clijsters in his signature. She was a classic defender for most of her career
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I just realized that dsanders guy has Clijsters in his signature. She was a classic defender for most of her career
Her defensive skills were remarkable, but I don't see her as a defender. For me it's just one of the many things she could do on the court.

When we speak about JJ, Woz, Capriati, Hingis, Radwanska, Clijsters (even Myskina), there were all different players at their peaks, but TF posters are often suggesting that they are all players with similar playing styles. When I joined this forum, people were comparing Hingis to Henin and Woz. Then they started comparing Hingis to Aga and after that they compare her to Vika. Of course, Lolex, this has nothing to do with your post, I'm speaking in general.
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Her defensive skills were remarkable, but I don't see her as a defender. For me it's just one of the many things she could do on the court.
I would definitely call her a counterpuncher in her first career. She was more defensive than agressive imo.

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When we speak about JJ, Woz, Capriati, Hingis, Radwanska, Clijsters (even Myskina), there were all different players at their peaks, but TF posters are often suggesting that they are all players with similar playing styles. When I joined this forum, people were comparing Hingis to Henin and Woz. Then they started comparing Hingis to Aga and after that they compare her to Vika. Of course, Lolex, this has nothing to do with your post, I'm speaking in general.
I absolutely agree with you. These comparisons are useless. Every player has own style and different skills, there are only some similarities. I don't know what post of mine are you referring to though. I did not compare anyone to anyone.
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Her defensive skills were remarkable, but I don't see her as a defender. For me it's just one of the many things she could do on the court.

When we speak about JJ, Woz, Capriati, Hingis, Radwanska, Clijsters (even Myskina), there were all different players at their peaks, but TF posters are often suggesting that they are all players with similar playing styles. When I joined this forum, people were comparing Hingis to Henin and Woz. Then they started comparing Hingis to Aga and after that they compare her to Vika. Of course, Lolex, this has nothing to do with your post, I'm speaking in general.
I don't see how people can compare Hingis to Henin or Caro. I don't think Martina ever won a 3 set match hitting only 6 winners. And Henin, contrary to belief, was a power player.
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I would definitely call her a counterpuncher in her first career. She was more defensive than agressive imo.
In her first career - yes. Everybody on this board likes to believe that the weak field is that the main reason why she did so much better in her second career, but her aggressiveness and composure are the biggest reasons.

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I absolutely agree with you. These comparisons are useless. Every player has own style and different skills, there are only some similarities. I don't know what post of mine are you referring to though. I did not compare anyone to anyone.
I know that you didn't compare them, but the second part of my post could've looked like I was responding to your post about Kim, so I wanted to avoid a confusion.

Those comparisons are truly useless, look at Ana and Sam, for example. During their peaks, their biggest weapons were serve and forehand, while their biggest weakness was a bh (although Ana used to have a decent bh in 2007 perhaps), so you may get a conclusion that their styles are similar. But, in reality, their styles are completely different.
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I know that you didn't compare them, but the second part of my post could've looked like I was responding to your post about Kim, so I wanted to avoid a confusion.

Those comparisons are truly useless, look at Ana and Sam, for example. During their peaks, their biggest weapons were serve and forehand, while their biggest weakness was a bh (although Ana used to have a decent bh in 2007 perhaps), so you may get a conclusion that their styles are similar. But, in reality, their styles are completely different.
Yeah, exactly. The same goes for Radwanska and Wozniacki. People like to call them pushers. There are huge differences in their games though. Radwanska, for example in my opinion doesn't have ability to create and construct points on her own, her game and skills are limited, while Wozniacki intentionally uses pushing as a tactic. (I hope Brad won't kill me for this). Radwanska deserves more credit for her excellent movement and anticipation rather than her game.
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