[NadalSharapova]

Originally Posted by Craigster

Says the person who called Maria "versatile" because she completed the Career Slam.

She can adapt herself and her game to all surfaces (only 5 other women in the open era could do this). That is quite versatile.

[PetraReeMona]

Originally Posted by Craigster

Says the person who called Maria "versatile" because she completed the Career Slam.

Don't worry..... you'll get used to it and will end up putting him on ignore ...

[denny5576]

Originally Posted by Towanda

If you look at the past 2 or 3 years, you will see that Wozniacki got as many or more web searches in the U.S. as Maria did for a period of time.

Not true.

[NadalSharapova]

Originally Posted by I.Luv.Kvitty

Don't worry..... you'll get used to it and will end up putting him on ignore ...

why is it so difficult for you to accept the truth, Sarn?

It is my opinion that she is very versatile but it is backed up by her career slam facts.

[denny5576]

Originally Posted by Towanda

Regarding me having poor logic because I did not accept your "web searches over time" charts as proof that she is enormously popular. I didn't complain about the length of the periods. It doesn't matter how long the period you show is. The entire period showed nothing but a spike of popularity in 2004 when she won Wimbledon, and a spike in 2012 when she won the FO. The shorter time period showed the spike in 2012. She has spikes when she wins something.

Really your logic is very strange. I am not saying it is poor. It is strange. And it is clear why you think that way, you simply try to go around the facts. The quantity of people who know the person indicates the person's popularity. The spikes you mentioned prove that more people know Sharapova than Nadal. Period. There is nothing more to discuss about.

[Towanda]

Originally Posted by denny5576

Not true.

True.

Originally Posted by denny5576

Really your logic is very strange. I am not saying it is poor. It is strange. And it is clear why you think that way, you simply try to go around the facts. The quantity of people who know the person indicates the person's popularity. The spikes you mentioned prove that more people know Sharapova than Nadal. Period. There is nothing more to discuss about.

Go look at September of 2009, and September 2010 for Wozniacki. Her peaks during those months is much higher than Sharapova's. So I guess during those months more people knew who Wozniacki was than Sharapova? If you want to keep considering those spikes as some evidence of how well known she is, you better be prepared to use the same argument regarding Wozniacki. My god, Wozniacki is a tennis icon, worshipped and beloved by all Americans!


And, once again, we are not talking about how many people know who Sharapova is as compared to Nadal or anyone else. Whether or not more Americans know who Sharapova is compared to Nadal, that is in no way evidence that she is an icon, known by people who don't even follow tennis. She might be popular compared to some other players but that doesn't make her well-known among non-tennis fans.

If 1,000 people know who Nadal is, and 2,000 know who Sharapova is (and let me be clear that I am not suggesting these are numbers are true, it is merely an illustration), when you consider the total population, they are both known by a very small percentage of the population. Sharapova being known by twice as many people as Nadal does not in any way reflect how well-known and loved she is.

[PetraReeMona]

Originally Posted by NadalSharapova

why is it so difficult for you to accept the truth, Sarn?

It is my opinion that she is very versatile but it is backed up by her career slam facts.

I wish you'd get it through your thick head that I'm not Sarn.

Career slam means nothing nowadays.

Now if she was doing what Djokovic was trying to do and that is go for 4 slams in a row, then that would be absolutely bloody amazing, but it's not - she's won 4 GS in 8 years and that's wonderful, but you are, as you always did, getting over-excited.... bless.

I was quite upset the Djokovic didn't do it... as much as I like Djokovic, Nadal's my man.

But please Davey, calm down.

[NadalSharapova]

career slam means a lot, thats why there has only beem 5 other women in the open era who have done this. career slam means you can adapt your game to all surfaces which shows versatility

Why was henin so desperate to win wimbledon? why was federer so desperate to get the french open title?

[denny5576]

Originally Posted by Towanda

And, once again, we are not talking about how many people know who Sharapova is as compared to Nadal or anyone else. Whether or not more Americans know who Sharapova is compared to Nadal, that is in no way evidence that she is an icon, known by people who don't even follow tennis. She might be popular compared to some other players but that doesn't make her well-known among non-tennis fans.

I never discussed the term "icon". I only repeated the known fact - Sharapova is more popular in US than Nadal and Djokovic.

[Towanda]

Originally Posted by NadalSharapova

career slam means a lot, thats why there has only beem 5 other women in the open era who have done this. career slam means you can adapt your game to all surfaces which shows versatility

Why was henin so desperate to win wimbledon? why was federer so desperate to get the french open title?

And how many of those 5 women took 8 years to do it? Yet you keep acting as if Sharapova is the greatest of them all.

[canadia]

Perhaps the numbers are skewed because some us chose to watch the match on Eurosport on our computers rather than endure the horrid NBC coverage. I live in Canada, have tv access to NBC but chose to listen to Jo Drurie rather than Johnny Mac.

[faboozadoo15]

Originally Posted by NadalSharapova

I don't like him but he at least counts as a player since he is ranked 4 for a while now. the future of american tennis is worse than british tennis, they have no one under the age of 30.

GB > USA.....

At least Roddick won a major, got to #1, made several other major finals. Murray is a mug.

You may not like it, but Isner doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and Fish would be top 10 if he was healthy.

Isn't McHale the youngest player in the top 100? Closely followed by-- Stephens??

Also, check the junior rankings.

[le bon vivant]

Originally Posted by Towanda

And how many of those 5 women took 8 years to do it? Yet you keep acting as if Sharapova is the greatest of them all.

Most of them actually won their "career" slam within a 1 year period.

[NadalSharapova]

Originally Posted by faboozadoo15

GB > USA.....

At least Roddick won a major, got to #1, made several other major finals. Murray is a mug.

You may not like it, but Isner doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and Fish would be top 10 if he was healthy.

Isn't McHale the youngest player in the top 100? Closely followed by-- Stephens??

Also, check the junior rankings.

murray is a mug but he's better than any of the american mugs, tennis future is bleak for both countries.

[NadalSharapova]

Originally Posted by Towanda

And how many of those 5 women took 8 years to do it? Yet you keep acting as if Sharapova is the greatest of them all.

she is currently the lowest out of the career slam achievers, however I'm saying she is more versatile than those not proven on all surfaces.