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Jun 10th, 2012, 05:34 PM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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Originally Posted by 18majors
I'm a fan of both Petra and Maria, my hopes are that they keep Wimbledon and OG titles between the two of them.
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Well, I think what most people don't realize is (knock on woood), you can have a situation where Vika wins 4 titles during the hardcourt season with a major; Sharapova wins 3 clay titles with a major; and Petra could win 3 grass court titles, with a major and Olympic Gold, the first 8mos of the year.
So you DO WANT Petra to win both WIMBY and THE OLYMPICS, cause if she does; not only will she have had a great year, but she would be in the running for Player Of The Year (as a matter of fact, based that scenario by the Olympics, it would be between Petra and Maria, and not the fading Vika). Petra can make the next two months HER SEASON, as Vika and Sharapova made the hardcourt and clay season theirs.
And Remember, Petra could still pick up some indoor titles, Tokyo (a fast outdoor hardcourt where she made the semi's last year), and the indoor YEC championship.
So the years not over for Petra yet by a long shot. Up until now, a different player (or two different players if you include Errani) has dominated each part of the WTA tennis season. Petra can be the next. And from that point on, anything can happen/the gloves are off.  I hope Petra and her people realize this?
As far as GM. I usually congratulate the opponent, and give my overview of a Petra match, no matter how bad I felt about the loss. But not this time. Maria's blatant cheating wouldn't allow me to say anything nice about her. So I decided stay away altogether, if I have nothing good to say, like the old saying (and not be perceived as a out of touch whiner). But I was fine and accepted the loss as it happened.
No Biggie. Onward!!
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Jun 10th, 2012, 06:31 PM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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Originally Posted by Excelscior
Well, I think what most people don't realize is (knock on woood), you can have a situation where Vika wins 4 titles during the hardcourt season with a major; Sharapova wins 3 clay titles with a major; and Petra could win 3 grass court titles, with a major and Olympic Gold, the first 8mos of the year.
So you DO WANT Petra to win both WIMBY and THE OLYMPICS, cause if she does; not only will she have had a great year, but she would be in the running for Player Of The Year (as a matter of fact, based that scenario by the Olympics, it would be between Petra and Maria, and not the fading Vika). Petra can make the next two months HER SEASON, as Vika and Sharapova made the hardcourt and clay season theirs.
And Remember, Petra could still pick up some indoor titles, Tokyo (a fast outdoor hardcourt where she made the semi's last year), and the indoor YEC championship.
So the years not over for Petra yet by a long shot. Up until now, a different player (or two different players if you include Errani) has dominated each part of the WTA tennis season. Petra can be the next. And from that point on, anything can happen/the gloves are off.  I hope Petra and her people realize this?
As far as GM. I usually congratulate the opponent, and give my overview of a Petra match, no matter how bad I felt about the loss. But not this time. Maria's blatant cheating wouldn't allow me to say anything nice about her. So I decided stay away altogether, if I have nothing good to say, like the old saying (and not be perceived as a out of touch whiner). But I was fine and accepted the loss as it happened.
No Biggie. Onward!!
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Hope either Petra or Maria will take out Serena before the final.
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Jun 11th, 2012, 04:30 AM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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Originally Posted by 18majors
I'm a fan of both Petra and Maria, my hopes are that they keep Wimbledon and OG titles between the two of them.
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Haven't ever disliked Maria but haven't ever been a fan,per se,either...other than as a general admirer of how she bounced back from serious shoulder surgery.Obviously,there's no conflict for me when Petra faces the RG champ and,like others here,I can envision the benefit to women's tennis if Petra faces the Siberian gal in lots of major event finals or later rounds of action...On an off-topic note,I could think of some creative ways for the tall blondes to settle their differences   ,but those might not appeal to everyone here so we'll keep focused on tennis 
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Jun 11th, 2012, 04:46 AM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
Last edited by ArcticMoose : Jun 11th, 2012 at 05:56 AM.
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Jun 11th, 2012, 07:47 AM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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Hope either Petra or Maria will take out Serena before the final.
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To be honest, I can easily imagine Serena beating both Petra and Maria in a row. She is FAR from done. If her serves and returns are clicking, beware!
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Jun 11th, 2012, 08:03 AM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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To be honest, I can easily imagine Serena beating both Petra and Maria in a row. She is FAR from done. If her serves and returns are clicking, beware!
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Yes, you're right, Serena will be almost impossible to beat if she plays as if it's 2010 Wimbledon all over again.
But for some reasons, it's more mental than physical, the 2012 Serena is clearly not as invincible. Either Petra or Maria will have a chance if they step up.
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Jun 11th, 2012, 11:08 AM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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To be honest, I can easily imagine Serena beating both Petra and Maria in a row. She is FAR from done. If her serves and returns are clicking, beware!
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Mmmmh.
Considering the 2010 Serena was down in the first set 4-2, before winning it in a tiebreak, and lost the ground battle, in the second set and overall in a match she won against a green, young Petra , I wouldn't be so sure.
Serena didn't return well in that match either (and or she just couldn't handle Petra's serve, especially the 2nd).
I remember, Petra blew some easy sitters in that match, in the pivotal tie break and the "it looked easy on paper second set", that could of made the match much more competitive.
Of course anything can happen. And I certainly respect Serena, especially at Wimbledon. But how often are we going to continue to overrate her before a major?
She's certainly has got a good a chance as anyone in theory, if she plays well. But it's a BIG if, to see if she can be consistent and physically fit for 7 matches. Now of course, Wimbledon would be the easiest Major for her physically (on the heart and lungs, not necessarily the joints), to try to last the 7 matches. So we'll see?
Who knows? Maybe Maria will inspire her (or make her mad)? I can see her winning, and saying some BS like that.
Lol
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Jun 11th, 2012, 02:14 PM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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Seriously. GM now unreadable, glutted with fawning fanboy crap and endless, pointless Sharapova polls like, "Who has better bowel movements - Maria or Legend?"
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 You're being silly. That happens with every player who's just won a major.
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Jun 11th, 2012, 02:17 PM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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And I certainly respect Serena, especially at Wimbledon. But how often are we going to continue to overrate her before a major?
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Overrate isn't something that translates to Serena Williams. 
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Jun 11th, 2012, 02:24 PM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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So you DO WANT Petra to win both WIMBY and THE OLYMPICS, cause if she does; not only will she have had a great year, but she would be in the running for Player Of The Year (as a matter of fact, based that scenario by the Olympics, it would be between Petra and Maria, and not the fading Vika). s.
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I think you're being a bit biased. There's a whole US hardcourt season after the grass. Kvitova has to expand beyond the grass for it to be her year. If she dominates the grass season, has a decent hardcourt season and kills it at the YEC again then she'll be in the running. On the other side of things: - factoring in only majors, SF at AO and RG count as solid showings IMO.
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Jun 11th, 2012, 03:08 PM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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I think you're being a bit biased. There's a whole US hardcourt season after the grass. Kvitova has to expand beyond the grass for it to be her year. If she dominates the grass season, has a decent hardcourt season and kills it at the YEC again then she'll be in the running. On the other side of things: - factoring in only majors, SF at AO and RG count as solid showings IMO.
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I was talking about, up until that point of the year. That's why I mentioned Tokyo, The YEC, The Indoor circuit, etc., that she could follow up on later, to solidify that status.
At the end of the year, they just look at the amount of titles you have, how important they are, your ranking, and go from there.
I know what I said and meant.
Plus, I was more trying to illustrate how Kvitty still has something to fight for this year, and not to give up.
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Jun 11th, 2012, 04:33 PM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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Mmmmh.
Considering the 2010 Serena was down in the first set 4-2, before winning it in a tiebreak, and lost the ground battle, in the second set and overall in a match she won against a green, young Petra , I wouldn't be so sure.
Serena didn't return well in that match either (and or she just couldn't handle Petra's serve, especially the 2nd).
I remember, Petra blew some easy sitters in that match, in the pivotal tie break and the "it looked easy on paper second set", that could of made the match much more competitive.
Of course anything can happen. And I certainly respect Serena, especially at Wimbledon. But how often are we going to continue to overrate her before a major?
She's certainly has got a good a chance as anyone in theory, if she plays well. But it's a BIG if, to see if she can be consistent and physically fit for 7 matches. Now of course, Wimbledon would be the easiest Major for her physically (on the heart and lungs, not necessarily the joints), to try to last the 7 matches. So we'll see?
Who knows? Maybe Maria will inspire her (or make her mad)? I can see her winning, and saying some BS like that.
Lol
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Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind if Petra drew Serena in QF, Azarenka in SF and Maria in F and beating them all to clinch the title 
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Jun 11th, 2012, 11:46 PM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
Do you guys think that Petra is gonna be the flag bearer
for the Olympics ?
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Jun 12th, 2012, 04:27 AM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
Glad that Petra didn't waste her time going to Birmingham or,especially,Bad Gastein---what a joke(time to move indoors or get your hosting privileges canceled,BadG)!!
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Jun 12th, 2012, 08:11 AM
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Re: Petra's Grass Season - Eastbourne, Wimbledon and Olympic Slam
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Do you guys think that Petra is gonna be the flag bearer
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I don´t think so. It depends on their schedule. Most likely it will be Barbora Špotáková.

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