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Old Jun 7th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #16
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Re: Video of the Umpire's Mistake in the Sharapova-Kvitova Semi

How ironic - Maria was actually pointing to the RIGHT mark and saying it might be in, but the umpire overruled her and pointed to another one that was out

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Old Jun 7th, 2012, 11:23 PM   #17
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Re: Video of the Umpire's Mistake in the Sharapova-Kvitova Semi

Well it happened to the current generation GOAT Serena Williams all the time Either you take it or try to shove the ball into the umpire/linesman's throat.
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Old Jun 7th, 2012, 11:25 PM   #18
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How ironic - Maria was actually pointing to the RIGHT mark and saying it might be in, but the umpire overruled her and pointed to another one that was out

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Old Jun 7th, 2012, 11:27 PM   #19
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Re: Video of the Umpire's Mistake in the Sharapova-Kvitova Semi

I really think this type of thing confirms that it might be wise for the major clay court tournaments to invest in hawk-eye in the future. Looking for the mark is fine in obvious situations, but in situations like this it's just not sufficient.
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Old Jun 7th, 2012, 11:27 PM   #20
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How ironic - Maria was actually pointing to the RIGHT mark and saying it might be in, but the umpire overruled her and pointed to another one that was out

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They have to find something, right?
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Old Jun 7th, 2012, 11:31 PM   #21
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I really think this type of thing confirms that it might be wise for the major clay court tournaments to invest in hawk-eye in the future. Looking for the mark is fine in obvious situations, but in situations like this it's just not sufficient.
I agree with this. Especially in RG's case, where they do actually HAVE the technology (because TV stations use it), but they just choose not to use it in the matches themselves. If nothing else, having Hawkeye adjudicate helps get the crowd involved,
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Old Jun 7th, 2012, 11:34 PM   #22
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How ironic - Maria was actually pointing to the RIGHT mark and saying it might be in, but the umpire overruled her and pointed to another one that was out

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YES.

anyone saying maria cheated is a pure hater.
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Old Jun 7th, 2012, 11:51 PM   #23
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I really think this type of thing confirms that it might be wise for the major clay court tournaments to invest in hawk-eye in the future. Looking for the mark is fine in obvious situations, but in situations like this it's just not sufficient.
Hawkeye is still significantly (statistically speaking) less accurate on clay (an uneven surface that is constantly being slid on, dug into, and swept, all of which complicate the technology). Given the technological limitations at the moment, looking at a ball mark up close with your own eyes remains more reliable. Even in the Sharapova/Kvitova match, there is still reason to believe that Hawkeye's projection of the shot was off enough that the ball was out. (See also: Wozniacki, "Did you go to school?")

Who knows? It's not 99% reliable like on hard courts or grass. If the ball lands in a small divot left by a player's slide, for example, then Hawkeye's triangulation would certainly be affected, even slightly, which is all it takes to screw up a close call that might be clear given the ball mark.

Can you imagine a scenario where a player challenges a call on clay and Hawkeye calls it IN, meanwhile the TV camera clearly zooms in on a obviously OUT ball mark visible with the naked eye. Incidents like that would destroy all trust in the challenge system on all surfaces and players would be irate.
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Old Jun 8th, 2012, 12:09 AM   #24
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Re: Video of the Umpire's Mistake in the Sharapova-Kvitova Semi

Petra fans are so pressed Calling maria a cheater. Please carry on. Its funny to read.
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Re: Video of the Umpire's Mistake in the Sharapova-Kvitova Semi

??? How can it be umpire mistake when ball is out?

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Old Jun 8th, 2012, 12:21 AM   #26
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maria certainly didn't try to cheat. that is bullshit.
If you don't know where the mark was, why circle a mark at all? The only explanation for Sharapova's behaviour was that she looked for a mark that was out and circled it dishonestly.
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Old Jun 8th, 2012, 12:21 AM   #27
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How ironic - Maria was actually pointing to the RIGHT mark and saying it might be in, but the umpire overruled her and pointed to another one that was out

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I didn't hear her say it might be in. Additionally the commentators I was listening to were very convinced Sharapova circled the wrong mark. Not surprised Petra wasn't impressed.
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Old Jun 8th, 2012, 12:26 AM   #28
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I didn't hear her say it might be in. Additionally the commentators I was listening to were very convinced Sharapova circled the wrong mark. Not surprised Petra wasn't impressed.
She clearly said 'I'm not sure...'
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How ironic - Maria was actually pointing to the RIGHT mark and saying it might be in, but the umpire overruled her and pointed to another one that was out

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At which precise part on that video did you hear her saying it might be in? Because in that video there was no sound from Sharapova it was just visual. So could you please tell me at which point you HEAR her voice.

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If you don't know where the mark was, why circle a mark at all? The only explanation for Sharapova's behaviour was that she looked for a mark that was out and circled it dishonestly.
This is basically what it comes down to. And I don't believe even the loyalest Pova stan can explain that sufficiently.
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