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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 05:27 PM   #1
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Puisqu'il y a une demande assez grandissante the 'forumers' en quête de partage linguistique comme Banditoo ou encore Silesia et puis moi bien sûr, il convient donc d'ouvrir en urgence un 'thread' où chacun pourras enrichir l'autre avec des trucs et astuces de sa langue natale.
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In much as there is a growing demand of 'Julianautes' in research of sharing, giving tips, little secrets and knowledge on their native language then it becomes urgent to open a thread where everyone'll be able to do just that.
Have fun and we should all learn lots of things.

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We have :

- Howard is the English specialist
- Joy, Dispeker, Silesia, Cilly etc. the German geniuses
- Rovegun Czech, German
- Dominatorb Slovak
- Banditoo (sorry I can't remember)
- if I could I would -- learn Turkish
- Skoo Romanian
- Robpal Polish expert
- and me well, french. I'm good in Spanish too and know basic Ukrainian (grammar etc.)

I forgot no one hopefully

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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 05:42 PM   #2
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thanks so much, Vikapower! I have waited for this thread for a long time good idea, anyway!
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Nice idea! Actually, very good idea. So i want you to ask you guys; i want to learn a new language. İ have the basics in German, so it is the favorite candidate now. But on the other hand, it is not that a popular language in the world -the opposite happens among Turkish people, there are a lot of Türk speaks german; due to the reasons that you already know and the artikels in German; brrrr. İn high school i almost failed in German. However; İ would like to learn spanish; because it is relatively easy compare to German and another candidate French. But although it's common, learning spanish have become "mainstream" in last years. İ want to learn French, but it is disgustingly hard. And also im thinking about learning Russian, but practice is an important thing in language-learning. And also, i study in political science. Maybe you can suggest or recommendate one.
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thanks so much, Vikapower! I have waited for this thread for a long time good idea, anyway!
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Nice idea! Actually, very good idea. So i want you to ask you guys; i want to learn a new language. İ have the basics in German, so it is the favorite candidate now. But on the other hand, it is not that a popular language in the world -the opposite happens among Turkish people, there are a lot of Türk speaks german; due to the reasons that you already know and the artikels in German; brrrr. İn high school i almost failed in German. However; İ would like to learn spanish; because it is relatively easy compare to German and another candidate French. But although it's common, learning spanish have become "mainstream" in last years. İ want to learn French, but it is disgustingly hard. And also im thinking about learning Russian, but practice is an important thing in language-learning. And also, i study in political science. Maybe you can suggest or recommendate one.
Well I don't want to be biased but you should should choose french

Anyways just kidding well you take to your liking -- Spanish and french are pretty good and Germany is Ze place to be in Europe from an economical etc. stand-point so learning German would not be a a bad idea.


French is quite a very difficult language indeed and I think it's easier to learn if you have people/surroundings etc. speaking the language so you can learn it by ear.

The grammar is similar to something like Russian in a little less complicated... but it can be extremely discouraging since there are lots of lots of things to learn --

It's the quantity I think.
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Old Mar 10th, 2012, 07:43 PM   #5
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Nice idea! Actually, very good idea. So i want you to ask you guys; i want to learn a new language. İ have the basics in German, so it is the favorite candidate now. But on the other hand, it is not that a popular language in the world -the opposite happens among Turkish people, there are a lot of Türk speaks german; due to the reasons that you already know and the artikels in German; brrrr. İn high school i almost failed in German. However; İ would like to learn spanish; because it is relatively easy compare to German and another candidate French. But although it's common, learning spanish have become "mainstream" in last years. İ want to learn French, but it is disgustingly hard. And also im thinking about learning Russian, but practice is an important thing in language-learning. And also, i study in political science. Maybe you can suggest or recommendate one.
I can recommend you Spanish even though I am struggling with learning this nice language at university at times... I also thought it´s a pretty easy language to learn it´s not tough but you have to spend your time with learning Spanish pretty properly in my opinion then it is easy... there are a couple of words similar to English ones so it can help you sometimes as well...

I can recommend you the Norwegian language as well which was much more easier to learn than Spanish for me when you know both English and German but I guess Norway is not your interest
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Well I don't want to be biased but you should should choose french

Anyways just kidding well you take to your liking -- Spanish and french are pretty good and Germany is Ze place to be in Europe from an economical etc. stand-point so learning German would not be a a bad idea.


French is quite a very difficult language indeed and I think it's easier to learn if you have people/surroundings etc. speaking the language so you can learn it by ear.

The grammar is similar to something like Russian in a little less complicated... but it can be extremely discouraging since there are lots of lots of things to learn --

It's the quantity I think.
it is really complicated topic but i think im going to learn german-so i can -maybe- understand julia's tweets and reading them is definetly going to ruin my grammar. French is a beatiful language,not like german ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2UHboNFQ38 ) but hard. very hard. i may even throw up if i go to a french class. That hard.
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I can recommend you Spanish even though I am struggling with learning this nice language at university at times... I also thought it´s a pretty easy language to learn it´s not tough but you have to spend your time with learning Spanish pretty properly in my opinion then it is easy... there are a couple of words similar to English ones so it can help you sometimes as well...

I can recommend you the Norwegian language as well which was much more easier to learn than Spanish for me when you know both English and German but I guess Norway is not your interest

Norway? The only 2 Norwegian thing i know is neutrogena and Norwegian girls And maybe the only times i use the word of "Norwegian" is while i singing the Beatles song i made my point clearly i guess yeah Spanish confuses me. But you know it became too mainstream, everybody goes to the spanish courses and stuff.. BTW, i noticed; we dont have a Spanish fan over here! Weird.
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I've learned at school 4 years in french and 3 years in spanish. But that must be 10 years ago . Unfortunately I'm a little bit rusty with that very nice languages . OK not just a little, very much

I love the sound of the french language. If Bartoli speaks, it makes her 10x more attractive

Hm, now without any help let me try what I can do in french. Aujourd ui (today right? ) Je m'apelle Lisickifan84. Hm very hard now to go on because I have never spoken or written or heard french since the school was over. Same with spanish.
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I'll import this here from the ITW thread.

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Nicely translated Vikapower. I'm learning some new words from that article. So "canon" is slang for hottie, similar to bombshell or knockout in English. A quick google on the phrase leads me to an Alizee song (one I don't know):
Well I don't know if it's a slang (anymore) but it's in the common/usual vocabulary.

Usually we'd say : "Elle est jolie, magnifique, sublime, sexy, déroutante [de...] etc..." -- "Canon" means in the sense of hot, super hot, super sexy.

BTW another way of expressing that is : "C'est de la balle" for example 'C'est de la balle cette meuffe/fille' but don't use that in front of a "Lady".

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C'est de la dynamite
Ses lettre sont J.B.G

Oh, elle est canon
Calibrée, culottée
Un canon de beauté

Would that be a good description of Julia?
Well Howard you have in the picture thread the perfect photo for this -- 'Alert in California' --

Anyways yes, it would be a good description.

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I also came across a phrase I hadn't seen before, "elle a du chien". Apparently it's a phrase meaning something like "she exudes an animal attraction". Do they use this phrase where you are Vikapower?
No. That's more in mainland France. Well, but that's correct.

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Alizee isn't well known in NZ but I've heard of her because of her infamous J'en ai marre dance.
I was a big fan of Alizée before lol she was inevitable at the time and probably one of the biggest french international signer we've ever had my guess.

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The whole article is written in a very interesting way. The writer seems to like Julia quite a lot. I enjoyed the extended musical metaphor. In fact, in general this writer seems to like extended metaphors a lot. I like the phrase about "wurst" and "kartoffel" . I think I would translate that phrase as "she dished out "wurst" and "kartoffel" with her forehand to anyone who opposed her". "Dish out" is slang for "distribute freely"- you can "dish out punishment", "dish out compliments", "dish out advice", "dish out criticism". Distributed is too unemotional a word for this kind of phrase.
Well thanks I was trying to find interesting/good words to say so I kind of handled the thing in a way.

That's true you see like "la quatrième roue de la carosse" I had lots of problems with that one --. I hope I translated it correctly.

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Also, we would say "she possesses exceptional qualities and great potential" rather than "disposes" exceptional qualities. Dispose is usually used to mean "get rid of", "dispatch", "defeat". "They hired an assassin to dispose of him". Also we have "rubbish disposal", and online you can find advice on how to properly dispose of old batteries, old medicine, things like that. Or we could say something like "Julia disposed of Caro in straight sets." A quick google search with the words "Julia Goerges disposes" provides articles such as :"Julia Goerges disposes of Greta Arn in the first round to avenge her defeat"; "German tennis diva, Julia Goerges, faced no real difficulty in disposing of the 67th ranked Belarusian opponent, Anastasiya Yakimova"; "Local disposes of Stosur in Stuttgart"; "Julia Goerges, who disposed again of the computer's world No. 1 in three sets".
Thanks Howard -- I'll remember that. In French, we use the verb "disposer" for example "She has lots of carachter = Elle dispose de beaucoup de carachtère" (extension of the word 'avoir') -- it's the context who allows to determine the sense of the verb.

EDIT : Oops and I forgot it's main sense - "Elle dispose les objets de sa maison à sa manière" : She arranges the objects in her house to her likings. I really though they meant the same in both languages.

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We would also translate "Je ne suis pas déçue" as "I am not disappointed". Deceiving means something different, like lying or misleading. "Her gentle appearance is deceiving- she's actually as tough as nails."
I'll remember all these.

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I've learned at school 4 years in french and 3 years in spanish. But that must be 10 years ago . Unfortunately I'm a little bit rusty with that very nice languages . OK not just a little, very much

I love the sound of the french language. If Bartoli speaks, it makes her 10x more attractive

Hm, now without any help let me try what I can do in french. Aujourd ui (today right? ) Je m'apelle Lisickifan84. Hm very hard now to go on because I have never spoken or written or heard french since the school was over. Same with spanish.
Nice start.

It's 'Aujourd'hui' -- 'Je m'apelle' is right but your name is not Lisickifan just today or am I wrong ?

'Bonjour/Salut, Je m'appelle Lisickifan et je vis en Allemagne'. You live well in Germany right ?
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Nice start.

It's 'Aujourd'hui' -- 'Je m'apelle' is right but your name is not Lisickifan just today or am I wrong ?

'Bonjour/Salut, Je m'appelle Lisickifan et je vis en Allemagne'. You live well in Germany right ?
No your wrong, I'm still fan of Lisicki

Oui, je vis en Allemagne, et tu? Je suis 28 ans.
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No your wrong, I'm still fan of Lisicki

Oui, je vis en Allemagne, et tu? Je suis 28 ans.
Je vis dans les carraïbes et j'ai 24 ans. Cela fait combien de temps que tu est fan de Sabine ? (For how long you've been fan of Sabine ?)


I hope you don't mind retaking some the phrases it'll install better habits.

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'to have' = 'avoir', j'ai, tu as, il as, nous avons etc...
'to be' = 'être', je suis, tu est, it est etc...
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No your wrong, I'm still fan of Lisicki

Oui, je vis en Allemagne, et tu? Je suis 28 ans.
du bist so alt als mein alter Bruder (hope I didn´t make any mistake) your French I can understand even though I have never learned French
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@Vikapower: Thx, no I don't mind. Ahh yes not "tu", but "toi". Very long ago as I said it already

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du bist so alt als mein alter Bruder (hope I didn´t make any mistake) your French I can understand even though I have never learned French
Du bist so alt wie mein älterer Bruder.
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du bist so alt als mein alter Bruder (hope I didn´t make any mistake) your French I can understand even though I have never learned French
That's really cool -- Latin based languages work like that I guess.

Ok I tried to understand what you wrote 'You are so tall/high [blank] my bigger brother ?'.
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