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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 10:46 AM   #241
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 5

I simply do not get, why people like Patrick345, who's well know for his/her vile comments against Caroline in GM, now feels the need to also post here.
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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 10:47 AM   #242
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 5

wtf with all the trolling from the haters here!
if I wanted to know their opinion I would go to GM!
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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 10:53 AM   #243
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I simply do not get, why people like Patrick345, who's well know for his/her vile comments against Caroline in GM, now feels the need to also post here.
To be honest, Patrick345's post was not trolling at all. I don't know how one could see it as such.
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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 10:54 AM   #244
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To be honest, Patrick345's post was not trolling at all. I don't know how one could see it as such.
You should read some of his other posts in GM. That was what I was referring to.
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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 11:01 AM   #245
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To be honest, Patrick345's post was not trolling at all. I don't know how one could see it as such.
It's a reasonably well argued post - no matter if one agrees with it or not. Unfortunately he has (unlike some of the other 'guest posters' yesterday) however a long history of bashing Woz and gloating when things go wrong for her at every opportunity he gets.
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It's a reasonably well argued post - no matter if one agrees with it or not. Unfortunately he has (unlike some of the other 'guest posters' yesterday) however a long history of bashing Woz and gloating when things go wrong for her at every opportunity he gets.
Others obviously feel very differently but it doesn't bother me in the least if people say nasty things about Caroline in GM and post critical, but respectful, comments about her here. Certainly there was nothing offensive or inappropriate about the post you are referring to. Maybe it is because I do not frequent GM much but I think some people here are a bit thin skinned when it comes to "outsiders" coming here and commenting on Caroline and her game. Sure, if someone comes here and posts hateful things about her it should not be tolerated but is it really a bad thing if they post reasonable critiques? I do not believe so.
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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 11:19 AM   #247
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It's a reasonably well argued post - no matter if one agrees with it or not. Unfortunately he has (unlike some of the other 'guest posters' yesterday) however a long history of bashing Woz and gloating when things go wrong for her at every opportunity he gets.
But If I "gloat" it´s just sneaky one liners, that you shouldn´t be taken too seriously. I´m a huge Jankovic/Zvonareva fan and I "troll" them all the time. Need to, to cope with the fact that they suck right now and might be going downhill for the rest of their careers.

If I bother to write more then it´s mostly constructive criticsm, that might be perceived as bashing, because you disagree with my assessment of Wozniacki´s ability (to win a Slam or not). I also give credit, when players change something and succeed. Unfortunately not much has changed in Wozniacki´s game over the last two years. I´m not even sure her 1st serve is better. I couldn´t pinpoint the exact stretch, but she had a time, where the power and placement of that serve were just as good as they are right now. Of course it´s good for her that she has it back. It kept her in the 3rd set yesterday.

Anyway if don´t want me to post here (reaosnably), not a problem. That was most likely my first post here.
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Others obviously feel very differently but it doesn't bother me in the least if people say nasty things about Caroline in GM and post critical, but respectful, comments about her here. Certainly there was nothing offensive or inappropriate about the post you are referring to. Maybe it is because I do not frequent GM much but I think some people here are a bit thin skinned when it comes to "outsiders" coming here and commenting on Caroline and her game. Sure, if someone comes here and posts hateful things about her it should not be tolerated but is it really a bad thing if they post reasonable critiques? I do not believe so.
I can only say, I disagree with you * 1,000.

When someone is well-known and has a long history of posting nothing but vile cr@p against Caroline in one forum (GM), I personally do not wish to see nor read that posters messages here in the player's forum.

A poster like Patrick345 has imho exactly one purpose of posting here: To stir up s h i t .. and with you defending him, he has achieved just that.
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But If I "gloat" it´s just sneaky one liners, that you shouldn´t be taken too seriously. I´m a huge Jankovic/Zvonareva fan and I "troll" them all the time. Need to, to cope with the fact that they suck right now and might be going downhill for the rest of their careers.
I'm afraid that Jelena appears to be finished but don't give up on Vera yet. If players like Schiavone, Li and Stosur can win slams late in their careers there is still hope for Vera. It is still not too late for Jelena but I think she needs to start caring again. Too often she looks like she is not the least bit interested in winning.
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Others obviously feel very differently but it doesn't bother me in the least if people say nasty things about Caroline in GM and post critical, but respectful, comments about her here. Certainly there was nothing offensive or inappropriate about the post you are referring to. Maybe it is because I do not frequent GM much but I think some people here are a bit thin skinned when it comes to "outsiders" coming here and commenting on Caroline and her game. Sure, if someone comes here and posts hateful things about her it should not be tolerated but is it really a bad thing if they post reasonable critiques? I do not believe so.
Well, I don't consider myself thin skinned in the least. For me EVERYONE is welcome to post here as long as their intentions are sincere. But I'm sure that you can understand that one has doubts about the intentions of someone who all of a sudden turns on the being reasonable act here while ridiculing Wozniacki has been his favorite pastime at GM for years and continues to be so while we speak.
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Anyway if don´t want me to post here (reaosnably), not a problem. That was most likely my first post here.
It's not for me to say. And it's not the right time to ask me anyway either because I've just read that vile Safarova/Woz result thread at GM and I'm fed up with it all. Ok, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but being 'nice' while everyone else shits all over me is apparently second nature to me. But again - it's not for me to say....
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Well, I don't consider myself thin skinned in the least. For me EVERYONE is welcome to post here as long as their intentions are sincere. But I'm sure that you can understand that one has doubts about the intentions of someone who all of a sudden turns on the being reasonable act here while ridiculing Wozniacki has been his favorite pastime at GM for years and continues to be so while we speak.
Sure. I guess I take the view that GM is a poisoned well. I give folks a bit of leeway for their posts there because it is such a negative environment. The individual player forums (not just this one) seem much more calm and reasonable (making exceptions for my occasional hysterical posts after Caroline loses at the slams).

I have largely stopped visiting GM so the "extreme" posts that you guys are referring to I do not see. I can only judge people by what they post here and by that standard I see nothing wrong with what the "outsiders" have posted recently. TennisFan66 mentioned a post that was deleted but I did not have a chance to read it. I'm guessing that post was deleted with good reason but otherwise I have no problems with anything I have read here recently.
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It's not for me to say. And it's not the right time to ask me anyway either because I've just read that vile Safarova/Woz result thread at GM and I'm fed up with it all. Ok, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but being 'nice' while everyone else shits all over me is apparently second nature to me.


Me too.

Kind of veering off topic but it can be discouraging to see jerks rewarded for their bad behaviour while you are "punished" for being a good guy, thank goodness we have alcohol to render reality (temporarily) irrelevant!

OK, back to tennis.

Here is a bit of optimism, Caroline almost certainly has to do better at her next tournament, right?
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Caro get the guns ready for Doha now
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WEAK LOGIC from DIAH in re: "GM is a poisoned well,so let bashers come here to express their opinions...";using THAT logic,we could say that drug dealers aren't allowed to enter the schoolgrounds,so we should let them sell coke and heroin on the streetcorners.I agree that some Caro fans are more sensitive than others,but this is HER forum so we should defer more to Caro's FANS than we should to her BASHERS if it comes down to a vote...simple common sense

Btw,I wasn't suggesting earlier that Sanchez was necessarily the right coach for Caroline,but I suspect that some top coaches are turned off NOT by working with Caro herself but rather the Piotr Factor
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