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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 10:08 AM   #121
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

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This, honestly. It's kind of upsetting how people don't realize that a condition like hers is not easily cureable, it is not the same as the acne many people have in their teenage years. And do you really think she has not visited a doctor about this? I am 110% sure she has done so many times, but getting rid of this isn't that easy.

Having had a similar (albeit less severe) case of cystic acne in my teenage years, which I, too, cured using Isotetrinoin, I can confirm that this is the only way to reliably cure this. I went through several different medications but Isotetrinoin is the only one that did anything at all, all others were pointless. And as pro athlete, you cannot justify taking this medications, there are too many bad side effects that would make you unable to play - even the minor ones like increased vulnurability to sun and the tendency to sun burn very fast would make it impossible for her to continue her tennis career for 6-12 months, a career suicide. There are more severe side effects as well that I won't bother adressing here (http://www.drugs.com/accutane.html) but in the end it is quite obvious that Mona can't do anything about this, even if she wants to.

I find it quite admirable honestly, a lot of people derive major confidence issues from a skin condition such as this, but Mona chose her tennis career over a chance of being cured, she chose a job in which everyone's eyes are on her and everyone will undoubtedly notice her condition and make disgusting comments about it, and yet she gives off the aura of a confident young woman, not being bothered much by he appearance. More people should be like her, less people should be as pathetic of some of the posters here.

PS: It did leave some minor scarring for me, really depends on a case by case basis. Nothing one can do about that.
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 10:44 AM   #122
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

her acne is even worse live.i mean, its really impressive...
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 12:10 PM   #123
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

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Some people in this thread point out that they photoshop every picture, most of the time to get rid of some pimples on some player's forehead. But it's a complete another ballgame here with Mona because they basicially airbrushed her whole face! In the first case it's not that bad because in most of the cases the pimples aren't permanent and evoperate with time, and the comparison to make up is a good one. But with Mona it is unfortunately permanent, at least for the foreseeable future! It's how she looks like. And what is WTA going to do? From here on out airbrush all of her pics so she looks like she has clear skin? For me it's almost as if some player had just one ear but on the WTA website they would show her with 2 ears. Minor photoshopping is a given today but this is going way too far. If someone looks at the airbrushed Mona and then watches her live and is taken by surprise how she looks like you know it went way too far. And that clearly the case here
very good post. retouching a pimple or a spot is one thing but "blurring" a whole face like they did with mona is sending a very unsettling message. just imagine how barthel feels when she sees that image on the WTA site?

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her acne is even worse live.i mean, its really impressive...
a new low, even for your ubiquitously worrisome standard.
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 12:48 PM   #124
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

Any dermatologists around here???
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 02:31 PM   #125
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

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but you prove his point. he wouldn't be looking at pics of tennis players like mona unless he had an intrest in tennis and like the sport (i.e the product).

for instance i think david beckham is hot, but i aint sitting through a LA Galaxy match or buying a ticket to see him play, as i just don't like football that much. the only thing pretty girls do unless in the league of kourikova is get a few more hits on google search, they don't sell more tickets.

people aren't going to watch tennis or go to tournament because of some hot chick or dude, they will go because they have a liking for tennis.
the product of tennis is what will always be the main reason people watch or don't, you only need to look at someone like henin to see that it is the tennis that matters and makes you watchable if you can produce great displays of it.

the wta always misses a trick by not promoting the hard work of players, the back stories and players as normal girls not glammed up celebs. i dislike vika, but the most i have ever warmed to her is the documentary that the tennis channel did on her where it showed her life and backstory and the passion she must have for tennis.
Agreed. We've been through this 784643 times before, and it's fairly obvious that the notion that there's a bunch of pervs who will watch tennis matches just to ogle at the hotties is completely misguided, and any marketing plan based on such a dowright wrong assumption can only be a miserable failure.

But off the mark, since the WTA's objective in this case isn't to sell additional tickets or to get larger TV audiences directly. The objective of glamming up players for their PAs, to get them to attend high profile parties, do fashion shows and/or photoshoots of questionable taste, is to get coverage on the general/mainstream (in the sense of non-sports) media, particularly in the gossip/showbiz/entertainment/celebrity sections, which is what everyone looks at. And the only way to achieve that is to make celebrities out of the players, or at least have them act like celebrities.
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 03:45 PM   #126
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 03:46 PM   #127
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

They are doing something right in terms of chasing sponsorship $$$.
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #128
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

God. Interesting how no one gave a fuck about her face when she was playing 25k's, now, she won a WTA tournament and all of a sudden everyone is concerned about her acne
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 04:12 PM   #129
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

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Mona should be commended for choosing a professional tennis career over getting rid of her acne. Of course people are going to talk about it if she is in such a public domain, but as long as she doesn't give a shit about it, then why should we?

The WTA is still deluded into thinking that sex is its biggest, and perhaps only, selling point. Whereas, someone like Mona, who seems like an intelligent, balanced and seemingly nice person, is a much bigger asset to the tour than mean-spirited douches like Dickmayer will ever be.
This comment should end all that discussion
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God. Interesting how no one gave a fuck about her face when she was playing 25k's, now, she won a WTA tournament and all of a sudden everyone is concerned about her acne
It's not that we care about her acne. It's the fact that the WTA cares about her acne by airbrushing her entire face just after winning her first WTA title in which she put so much effort in after going through all these ITFs.
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

Case in point is they airbrush all the photos that become the feature story on the WTA page. Her picture for the semifinal article is not airbrushed. This glamour girl acne free Mona Barthel everyone thinks the WTA is trying to create is just an overreaction.

If Mona's acne was less severe you wouldn't have even noticed. This bleeding heart mind set is really exhausting in my opinion.
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 10:02 PM   #133
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If you all were talking about an oral pill then it is different. That would have to be some hellacious acne to require oral retnoic acid. I have been talking about the topical, not an oral dose. I wouldnt personally touch the oral because it personally doesnt make much sense to me. No point in taking something orally to be absorbed into the bloodstream when you can appy topical directly to the skin and have it concentrated at the site of breakout. All vitamin A type ingredients (retinol, etc) very easily absorb into the skin thanks to their small molecular size.
We are talking about the facts, not about your feelings. Isotretinoin is the main drug in treating severe acne cases and it can be taken only orally. If you are talking about the medications you can put directly to the skin, we use clindamycin and erythromycin for treating chronic types of acne. Creams that contains retinol are usually used as add-on treatment.
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 10:08 PM   #134
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

Must have done it to Sharapova. THAT would be a favour.
As for this poor girl, obviously it's not.
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Old Jan 15th, 2012, 10:37 PM   #135
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Re: Did the WTA airbrush Barthel's face?

NO ONE here knows the story behind this (if the photo's truly been manipulated) and the assumptions and recriminations really seem to me to be over the top.

Seriously people. We've got a major starting in a couple of hours, and this is what you're talking about? Oh, well, it's your time...
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