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Old Oct 21st, 2012, 10:21 AM   #1201
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Old Oct 21st, 2012, 11:31 AM   #1202
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I've never paid much attention to WTA win/loss stats - so I've only just realised that withdrawals during a tournament (nor retirements?) don't count as losses. Other stats sites don't use this rule.

So sickPetra finishes matches against Kerber & Navarro this year and gets a loss, but Vika tanks halfway through a tournment and doesn't
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Yes but walkovers don't count as win either. Like kerber/Azarenka in tokyo
But for a player who gets a walkover, the match might as well not have happened, so it doesn't affect them.

I think for the stats on the WTA website they should have wins-losses-withdrawals, where the last includes all the matches/tournaments the player chose not to contest - whether through injury or apathy. So zero-pointers plus retirements plus walkovers. This would give a fuller picture of actual form through the year. Of course it's not perfect, but the simple win-loss ratio isn't either.

Of course for pretty graphs to promote YEC I'm not surprised the WTA don't include withdrawals, as it's bad PR. But the overall stats on the website should be more accurate.
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Old Oct 21st, 2012, 11:55 AM   #1203
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But for a player who gets a walkover, the match might as well not have happened, so it doesn't affect them.

I think for the stats on the WTA website they should have wins-losses-withdrawals, where the last includes all the matches/tournaments the player chose not to contest - whether through injury or apathy. So zero-pointers plus retirements plus walkovers. This would give a fuller picture of actual form through the year. Of course it's not perfect, but the simple win-loss ratio isn't either.

Of course for pretty graphs to promote YEC I'm not surprised the WTA don't include withdrawals, as it's bad PR. But the overall stats on the website should be more accurate.
Well the player gets a free pass to the next round. It would be to complicate to add all that... You would have to include win through retirement.


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Old Oct 21st, 2012, 02:10 PM   #1204
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Old Oct 21st, 2012, 02:20 PM   #1205
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We reached world #3. Only the world top 2 left.
so she basically won everything this season and still isn't ranked higher than 3
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Old Oct 21st, 2012, 02:48 PM   #1206
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so she basically won everything this season and still isn't ranked higher than 3
the early start to 2012 probably fucked her chances + 1r exit at FO
don't forget, even though masha's not clearing up the titles shes consistently reaching finals. and she's played an extra 2 tournaments over rena
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any stream of draw ceremony?
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...??? Stream People?

EDIT: It starts in an hour right?
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Old Oct 21st, 2012, 03:09 PM   #1209
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...??? Stream People?

EDIT: It starts in an hour right?
it's already started but i guess there no stream
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Old Oct 21st, 2012, 03:12 PM   #1211
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Why so sudden??
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source? wta twitter is silent about it
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Old Oct 21st, 2012, 03:24 PM   #1213
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see http://twitter.com/angelikf

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