[Daniel]

Originally Posted by Julian.

I love the promotional logo

[pling]

Originally Posted by pling

I've never paid much attention to WTA win/loss stats - so I've only just realised that withdrawals during a tournament (nor retirements?) don't count as losses. Other stats sites don't use this rule.

So sickPetra finishes matches against Kerber & Navarro this year and gets a loss, but Vika tanks halfway through a tournment and doesn't

Originally Posted by guichard

Yes but walkovers don't count as win either. Like kerber/Azarenka in tokyo

But for a player who gets a walkover, the match might as well not have happened, so it doesn't affect them.

I think for the stats on the WTA website they should have wins-losses-withdrawals, where the last includes all the matches/tournaments the player chose not to contest - whether through injury or apathy. So zero-pointers plus retirements plus walkovers. This would give a fuller picture of actual form through the year. Of course it's not perfect, but the simple win-loss ratio isn't either.

Of course for pretty graphs to promote YEC I'm not surprised the WTA don't include withdrawals, as it's bad PR. But the overall stats on the website should be more accurate.

[guichard]

Originally Posted by pling

But for a player who gets a walkover, the match might as well not have happened, so it doesn't affect them.

I think for the stats on the WTA website they should have wins-losses-withdrawals, where the last includes all the matches/tournaments the player chose not to contest - whether through injury or apathy. So zero-pointers plus retirements plus walkovers. This would give a fuller picture of actual form through the year. Of course it's not perfect, but the simple win-loss ratio isn't either.

Of course for pretty graphs to promote YEC I'm not surprised the WTA don't include withdrawals, as it's bad PR. But the overall stats on the website should be more accurate.

Well the player gets a free pass to the next round. It would be to complicate to add all that... You would have to include win through retirement.


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[Julian.]

[Adrian.]

Originally Posted by Julian.

We reached world #3. Only the world top 2 left.

so she basically won everything this season and still isn't ranked higher than 3

[Cosmic Voices]

Originally Posted by Adrian.

so she basically won everything this season and still isn't ranked higher than 3

the early start to 2012 probably fucked her chances + 1r exit at FO
don't forget, even though masha's not clearing up the titles shes consistently reaching finals. and she's played an extra 2 tournaments over rena

[NashaMasha]

any stream of draw ceremony?

[SilverSlam]

...??? Stream People?

EDIT: It starts in an hour right?

[Meelis]

Postponed until 7pm

[ShiftyFella]

Originally Posted by SilverSlam

...??? Stream People?

EDIT: It starts in an hour right?

it's already started but i guess there no stream

[longtin23]

Why so sudden??

[ShiftyFella]

Originally Posted by Meelis

Postponed until 7pm

source? wta twitter is silent about it

[pling]

see http://twitter.com/angelikf

says one hour delay (to 7pm local time)

[ShiftyFella]

Originally Posted by pling

see http://twitter.com/angelikf

says one hour delay (to 7pm local time)

thanks, I'm dummy forgot about #WTACHamps

[Julian.]

Originally Posted by Daniel

I love the promotional logo

It's not their official promotional logo