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Old Oct 2nd, 2012, 08:28 PM   #976
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stay pressed she will still gain good pts even losing all matches and a paycheck that most of you can only dream of
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Old Oct 2nd, 2012, 08:31 PM   #977
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^ I guess she's going to win doubles in Istanbul so I'm pretty sure she will receive really big paycheck.
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Old Oct 3rd, 2012, 01:44 AM   #978
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Li 4416 points
Stosur 3910 points

If Stosur will won both Osaka and Moscow, she will have 4420 points (3910 + 280 - 120 + 470 - 120)
Li has to win her 3rd round match in Beijing then there will be no more chance for Stosur to pass her.
a dane say that she If Stosur will won both Osaka and Moscow, she will have 4410 points (3910 + 280 - 125 + 470 - 125) - (Rome and Montreal off)

He also say Caro's out of the race for the 8th spot?

I don't know who to believe? Can one here add Caro's possible points? (2 x wins and what off?)
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Old Oct 3rd, 2012, 02:45 AM   #979
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Re: 2012 RACE TO ISTANBUL YEC (After Tokyo) - 4 players qualified, 4 spots left for g

If LI Na loses in next round of Beijing and will not play any more tournaments before YEC [with 4416 points], there are only 3 scenarios where she can't qualified for YEC:

[1] Stosur wins Osaka & Moscow: 4420 points (3910 + 280 - 120 + 470 - 120) - ( Dubai & Stuttgart off) ****not 4410**** ;

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[2] Bartoli wins Beijing & Moscow: 4640 points (4290*[3430+860] + 470 - 120) - (Sydney off)

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[3] Wozniacki wins Beijing & Moscow: 4545 points (4200*[3340+860] + 470 -125 ) - (Cincinnati off)

Please be noticed that Both Bartoli and Wozniacki has played ONE International Tournament in the last half of this year [Guangzhou & Soel respectively], so they can't play another International tournament before YEC as they are both 2011 Year End TOP 10 players.

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a dane say that she If Stosur will won both Osaka and Moscow, she will have 4410 points (3910 + 280 - 125 + 470 - 125) - (Rome and Montreal off)

He also say Caro's out of the race for the 8th spot?

I don't know who to believe? Can one here add Caro's possible points? (2 x wins and what off?)
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Old Oct 3rd, 2012, 03:01 AM   #980
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a dane say that she If Stosur will won both Osaka and Moscow, she will have 4410 points (3910 + 280 - 125 + 470 - 125) - (Rome and Montreal off)

He also say Caro's out of the race for the 8th spot?

I don't know who to believe? Can one here add Caro's possible points? (2 x wins and what off?)
It is 4420 for Stosur. (3910 + 280 osaka - 120 dubai + 470 moscow - 120 stuggart)

Wozniacki is not yet out of the race for 8th spot but she will be if Li reaches the semi/or Caro doesn't win Beijing.

Caro points now 3340(3320+140 beijing 3rd rd-120 sydney). After that it is 125 cincinnati that will be off

Her max 4545(3320+1000 beijing-120 sydeney +470 moscow- 125 cincinnati)
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If LI Na loses in next round of Beijing and will not play any more tournaments before YEC [with 4416 points], there are only 3 scenarios where she can't qualified for YEC:

[1] Stosur wins Osaka & Moscow: 4420 points (3910 + 280 - 120 + 470 - 120) - ( Dubai & Stuttgart off) ****not 4410**** ;

OR
[2] Bartoli wins Beijing & Moscow: 4640 points (4290*[3430+860] + 470 - 120) - (Sydney off)

OR
[3] Wozniacki wins Beijing & Moscow: 4545 points (4200*[3340+860] + 470 -125 ) - (Cincinnati off)

Please be noticed that Both Bartoli and Wozniacki has played ONE International Tournament in the last half of this year [Guangzhou & Soel respectively], so they can't play another International tournament before YEC as they are both 2011 Year End TOP 10 players.
Nitpicking, but isnt there also:

[4] Bartoli wins Beijing and loses the final in Moscow: 4470?
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Old Oct 3rd, 2012, 10:23 AM   #982
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Re: 2012 RACE TO ISTANBUL YEC (After Tokyo) - 4 players qualified, 4 spots left for g

Bartoli wins Beijing and loses the final in Moscow: 4490 not 4470 :-)

You are correct that a win in Beijing and a Final in Moscow would be sufficient for Bartoli to pass LI Na, if NaNa loses the next match and will not play any other tournaments before YEC.

However, if LI Na wins the next match against PENG Shuai, Stosur will have no opportunity if no withdraws, while Bartoli/Caro needs to win Both Beijing and Moscow....

Anyway, a SF in Beijing would be ok for LI Na ....

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[4] Bartoli wins Beijing and loses the final in Moscow: 4470?
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Sara Errani on her chance to play Istanbul "I will go even on one foot" https://twitter.com/angelikf/status/253475326867419138
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Old Oct 3rd, 2012, 02:44 PM   #984
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Sara Errani on her chance to play Istanbul "I will go even on one foot" https://twitter.com/angelikf/status/253475326867419138

She will play $_$ and she will not have another chance in the future
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who is this Angelica person
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Old Oct 3rd, 2012, 03:11 PM   #986
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Players lossing after 3 RR get "only" 300.000 not much for the TOP players
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^^ it maybe half of the last couple years she can ever earn
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Now i think more about it, its normally 210.000 for playing and lossing 3 RR...
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Now i think more about it, its normally 210.000 for playing and lossing 3 RR...
3 RR loss : 210 ranking points and $110 000
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Assuming conservative h2h statistics, probabilities for the final spot are now:

94,4% Li
3,0% Bartoli
2,3% Stosur
0,3% Wozniacki
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