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Old Feb 28th, 2012, 02:29 PM   #91
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

Thanks very much for adding another piece in the ring in order to help us to find an answer to WTAs interpretation of ranking point penalties after a long term injury.
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[…]Serena has 14 tourns on her rank
4 slams, 4 PM
Rome (0) Cinci & Toronto +
Brisbane, Eastbourne & Stanford
Unfortunately I am speechless that P5 Rome (during her long term injury) counted for a mandatory 0 pointer (more than three GS & PM are 0 pointers) instead of P5 Tokyo (withdrawal due to medical reasons). NA-MUG said earlier within this thread that P5 Tokyo is the only mandatory 0 outside GS & PM which is in line with WTAs ranking penalties rule.
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for Kim- This is what i've got for her 13 events (4 slams + PM)
plus Brisbane, s'-Hertogenbosch as well as Rome, Cinci & Toronto
Out of these 13 events, Kim played seven (Brisbane & Australian Open 2012 and Indian Wells, Miami, French Open, s’-Hertogenbosch & Toronto 2011). As a consequence six mandatory 0 pointers are for missing GS Wimbledon & US Open; PM Madrid & Beijing; P5s Rome & Cincinnati).

However, there are two periods a long term injury for Kim:
  1. After s’-Hertogenbosch until Carlsbad
    During this period, Kim missed GS Wimbledon and P700 Carlsbad which might be one of her two P700 commitment tournaments (NA-MUG questions also why Kim didn’t receive a mandatory 0 pointer for missing this event).
  2. After P5 Toronto until season end 2011
    As Kim missed with P5 Cincinnati, GS US Open, P5 Tokyo & PM Beijing four tournaments, but as the maximal number of mandatory 0 pointers is three, the last P5 Tokyo isn’t a 0 pointer.
But as Kim also missed her second P700 commitment tournament in 2011 she should have scored two additional 0 pointers.

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Camila Giorgi should have 432 points
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

@ The Boiled Egg: Will be interesting to see if WTAs ranking after IW will have Andrea Petković at 3,730 ranking points you anticipated.

Andrea’s absence since Australian Open 2012 should qualify for a long term injury. If a maximum of three mandatory 0 pointer may incur in her ranking, then her mandatory 0 for missing her commitment to P700 Dubai 2012 should be switched with PM Indian Wells 2012. If so additional 70 ranking points (P5 Rome 2011) will push Andrea’s total to 3,800 points.

If this scenario is in line with WTAs interpretation of their published rules (WTA 2012 Official Rulebook p 228 – see post # 96) and Andrea will also fail to play PM Miami, her mandatory 0 for missing her commitment to P5 Doha 2012 should be switched with PM Miami 2012. If so, her ranking points total after PM Miami 2012 will be 3,410 points [off 450 points (PM Miami 2011; add 60 points (P Sydney 2012)].

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[...]If a Top 10 player may only incur a maximum of three 0 points for missed tournaments due to injury or illness for at least eight consecutive weeks during the tour year (= long term injury) and this includes missed Mandatory tournaments then Andrea Petković should only receive three mandatory 0 ranking points for missing GS Australian Open, PMs Indian Wells & Miami (I assume she will withdraw from the last two but read here that she likes to play in IW). I am looking forward to see the outcome.
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@ The Boiled Egg: Will be interesting to see if WTAs ranking after IW will have Andrea Petković at 3,730 ranking points you anticipated.

Andrea’s absence since Australian Open 2012 should qualify for a long term injury. If a maximum of three mandatory 0 pointer may incur in her ranking, then her mandatory 0 for missing her commitment to P700 Dubai 2012 should be switched with PM Indian Wells 2012. If so additional 70 ranking points (P5 Rome 2011) will push Andrea’s total to 3,800 points.

If this scenario is in line with WTAs interpretation of their published rules (WTA 2012 Official Rulebook p 228 – see post # 96) and Andrea will also fail to play PM Miami, her mandatory 0 for missing her commitment to P5 Doha 2012 should be switched with PM Miami 2012. If so, her ranking points total after PM Miami 2012 will be 3,410 points [off 450 points (PM Miami 2011; add 60 points (P Sydney 2012)].

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its not a max of 3 mandatory 0 pointers but its a maximum of 3 non-mandatory 0 pointers
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I have 2465 for Kerber and 3131 for Sabine ... Sabine has to count the 1 point from Doha and can't count Auckland, Prague, Reggio
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3131 for Sabine ... Sabine has to count the 1 point from Doha and can't count Auckland, Prague, Reggio
She has to count only one P5 at the moment and Cincinnati is already counted.

3196 - 60 (Charleston) + 5 (Indian Wells) = 3141
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OK but Kerber should have 2465 just like she does this week
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OK but Kerber should have 2465 just like she does this week
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OMG, Cornet @#142, Rezaï @#143
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we know some more news about the Top 10 2012 P5 commitment

Wozniacki and Stosur did not commit to Tokyo so they play Doha, Rome, Canada, Cincy
Li and Sharapova did not commit Doha so they play Doha, Canada, Cincy, Tokyo
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Na would win the tiebreaker over Marion right
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it'll only matter if both lose next match
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yes true but you have Marion listed as 7 now and Na as 8 I guess minor detail
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we know some more news about the Top 10 2012 P5 commitment

Wozniacki and Stosur did not commit to Tokyo so they play Doha, Rome, Canada, Cincy
Li and Sharapova did not commit Doha so they play Doha, Canada, Cincy, Tokyo
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I meant Rome
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