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Old Nov 19th, 2012, 02:52 AM   #61
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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

This season had so much promise after the first few episodes but now I just don't know anymore.....Carrie's relationship with Brody is annoying me. Yeah I get she is saying she is doing this to keep Brody on track but i am appalled that she'd be in love with a terrorist.
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Old Nov 19th, 2012, 03:28 AM   #62
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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

This last episodes has also introduced doubts in my mind about this show, but for me that's nothing new. The great thing about this show is when I get to a point where I start to have major criticisms the series seems to miraculously make them disappear in later episodes. As it currently stands I'm beyond annoyed with Carrie!

I don't mind her having feelings for Brody in the least bit mainly because love is anything but rational and most times its not something in your conscious control. So I will give her a pass for that, but her unprofessionalism is something I can't get past. Her blatant disregard for protocol and her unwillingness to follow a direct order is getting old. I get that every now and then u go against orders and listen to your gut and when things pan out u can get a 'pass', but they seem to be really running w.this theme. Its like everyone is an idiot except for Carrie and since she knows better rules don't apply to her.

Like I said in the past this show always takes care of problems I have so I hope this time isn't an exception.
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Old Nov 19th, 2012, 09:56 AM   #63
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TBH I'm more annoyed with Brody's daughter's transformation from a somewhat strong-willed girl to a wreckless trainwreck.
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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

They could've killed Carrie off in this episode and I couldn't have cared less, just annoying.
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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

Not really. You guys are way too critical, it's like reading televisionwithoutpity. I'm enjoying most of it (except the Dana drama).
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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

I still love Carrie!
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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

yeah, it really annoyed me when she got out of the van to defy orders yet again

homeland is the ONE piece of fiction where love/sex increases the ick factor instead of the hotness factor


edit: http://www.hulu.com/watch/423747 SNL does homeland

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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

The SNL skit is hilarious. Saw that last week.

Why on earth would they let Carrie trail Brody? That just seemed so dumb to me.

The show still gives me everything I want from it even if its getting a bit far-fetched, repetitive at times now.
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ugh carrie is a moron...... i miss season 1 carrie

while carrie and sal think they have got brody around their finger, i bet it was brody's plan all along to get close to the CIA for Abu Nazir........
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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

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The SNL skit is hilarious. Saw that last week.

Why on earth would they let Carrie trail Brody? That just seemed so dumb to me.

The show still gives me everything I want from it even if its getting a bit far-fetched, repetitive at times now.
That's exactly what I was thinking! I said to myself, "oh great, what's she gonna do now". I wish she could find a way to continue to listen to her gut but w.out being so out of control and above the "fray".


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Not really. You guys are way too critical, it's like reading televisionwithoutpity. I'm enjoying most of it (except the Dana drama).
To be fair the same people u call "too critical" are a lot of the same people who showered the show w.praise in season 1. For me personally nothing has changed. The show did this to me last season and what makes the show really good is how it always 'overcomes my objections'. Right now Carrie is a bit annoying so I have faith they will find a way for me to love her again.
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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

I'm begging those terrorists to kill off Dana her plot is such a waste of time.
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Old Nov 24th, 2012, 09:15 AM   #72
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Here are two reviews for the last episode, 'I'll Fly Away'. One positive and one a little more critical- two different perspectives:

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Season two of Homeland has been just as exhilarating and surprising as last year’s Emmy Award-winning freshman season. Recently, Showtime announced that Homeland has been renewed for a third season, prompting many viewers to wonder if this show can maintain its Emmy-caliber status heading into 2013. Thanks to stellar performances by Damian Lewis, Claire Danes and Mandy Patinkin to name a few, Homeland shows no signs of slowing down as it heads into the last few episodes of season two.

A major point that was stressed from the very start of the episode “I’ll Fly Away,” is that Brody is unstable. He has no control of his life, and the constant lying has him on the brink of a mental breakdown. Brody is fragile, he’s disheveled, and he has lost his will to live. While the spotlight of him running for vice president has dimmed, the demands of Roya and Carrie are clearly taking a toll on him. Brody has shifted sides so many times, that it’s surprising he can keep his lies in order—or even stand on his own two feet.

We can thank Carrie for shoveling a disarranged Brody from the fetal position in his home and thrusting him back into action for the CIA. Shortly after, Brody meets up with Roya, but after a few minutes, Brody becomes agitated and storms off saying he’s done. The man has clearly hit a wall, but Carrie refuses to turn Brody in to the CIA. She finds him as he’s walking to his vehicle, takes his keys, and drives off to an old crumby hotel only to empower him later in the evening by having sex with him. Let’s not forget that everyone who was part of the CIA operation heard that commotion—the scene felt embarrassing for Saul. His protégé Carrie appeared to have her own interests in mind when she whisked Brody off to a hotel to get her rocks off. Whether or not Carrie is stuck on Brody is still up in the air. Either way, it looks awful for her reputation and pushes her even further from regaining any credibility that she lost after being fired from the CIA in season one.

Meanwhile, young Dana Brody ran away and showed up at Mike Faber’s doorstep. She spends some time there to clear her head and later, schedules a time to visit the hit-and-run victim’s daughter. Dana’s effort to make good on the accident is met with hostility. The victim’s daughter was paid off by the CIA to keep quiet so that the incident wouldn’t derail the presidential campaign. While most of us saw this coming, it’s alarming to think that real political messes such as this can be muscled to keep quiet.

By the end of the episode, Brody is kidnapped and taken by helicopter to an undisclosed location. Once he arrives at his destination he is met face-to-face with Abu Nazir. This is the first time they’ve seen each other since Brody was MIA. While Abu Nazir’s intentions have not been revealed, it will be interesting to see how and why Nazir arrived in the United States. Whatever Nazir is planning, it’s big, and Brody seems to be an intricate part of it—whether he likes it or not.

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This season of Homeland has really pushed the boundaries of believability, sometimes veering into directions that are downright ridiculous. But, as with any series, loyal fans will forgive the writers when they ask their audience to suspend disbelief so completely that all sense of realism is ignored. In the season’s first episode, we knew it was absurd to think the CIA would send an ex-agent who suffered a mental breakdown less than a year earlier back into the field because of one potential contact. We all smiled and nodded when Carrie was allowed to have contact with Brody again, even though they had an affair and he was at least partly the cause of her breakdown. These missteps can be chalked up to dramatic license and the need for enticing storytelling. But last night’s episode (“I’ll Fly Away”) reaches a new level of ludicrousness (that’s a word) when Carrie essentially kidnaps Brody and has sex with him in a motel room.*

But let’s back up. After last week’s pretty much standalone episode (“The Clearing”), we get back into Brody’s work as a triple agent and the potential breakdown he may be facing himself. He’s got Carrie and the CIA pressuring him to keep up appearances with Roya Hammad so that he can lead them to Abu Nazir. He’s got Roya testing his loyalty to Nazir, unaware Brody is working for the CIA. And he’s got his wife and family who are struggling to deal with Dana’s involvement in a hit and run accident that killed a woman. To make matters worse, both the CIA and Vice President Walden are telling Brody (for different reasons) NOT to tell the cops because he could bring the wrong kind of attention to himself.*

So, when Brody goes to meet with Roya in a public place, it’s no surprise he has a mini-breakdown. As Roya attempts to assuage his concerns he tells her he’s finished helping Abu Nazir, leaving her and the CIA (who are eavesdropping) scratching their heads. Carrie catches up to him and tells him he can’t blow his cover because she is their only link to Nazir. Seeing he is close to self-destructing, she takes his keys and drives them to a seedy motel way outside town. After she talks him down, they have sex, completely unaware that Saul, Peter and about half a dozen CIA agents are listening in.*

At this point, in real life, Carrie would be thrown out of the CIA (quite possibly in a literal sense) for sleeping with 1) a terrorist who is 2) an informant/mole. I mean, come on. Saul and Co. try to play it off like “She was doing what she had to do to keep Brody in play,” but it is insane to ask viewers to buy that nonsense. We can stomach Carrie confessing her love to Brody in a taped interview session as a way to convince him to help them stop the CIA, but asking us to believe there would be NO repercussions after having sex with the same man is just insulting. At the very least, Carrie should be taken off the mission and forbidden to have any contact with Brody whatsoever.*

After their night of lust, Brody contacts Roya and tells her he wants another chance to show his loyalty. This results in Roya leading him to the middle of nowhere where he is abducted and brought to an empty warehouse. The episode ends with Brody coming to face to face with Abu Nazir who is, apparently, now on U.S. soil. Though Carrie of course tried to prevent Brody from being taken away, she is left standing alone in a field wondering what would happen to him.*

The rest of the episode is more filler of Dana struggling with the car accident and not knowing what to do. She ends up visiting the daughter of the woman she killed and finds out someone (not sure who) paid her a bunch of money not to go to the police or make a fuss about the accident. Upon hearing this, Dana becomes more distraught. How this storyline can do anything but fizzle away is beyond me.*

Hopefully the show will get back on track sooner rather than later because the last couple of episodes have made the first season look like a fluke. For a series that promised at least several seasons of riveting television, let’s hope that’s not the case.

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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 11:24 AM   #73
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Fuck me that was epic.
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That episode was a little too ridiculous even by Homeland standards
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Re: Showtime Drama: "Homeland"

I am so over this season of Homeland. I hate Carrie now. The writers have made her a sad character who you pity and not someone you empathize with. I still love Claire Danes though.


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