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Old Nov 27th, 2011, 09:57 AM   #1
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Tipping doubles (2012) ideas, suggestions...?

Many have expressed an interest for tipping doubles to be played as well.

I have no clear or definite concept of it, so I'll just give out some ideas about how it could be done easily and effectively.

For example:

People who have entered the singles tournament team up for doubles (if they want), but only singles matches are played regardless. Points of player A and player B (who've decided to team up for doubles) are summed up to form their doubles team points, which decide on 8 teams that qualify for the SEC as the season goes. So for instance,

player A gets 31 point
player B gets 23 points
=
team A/B gets 54 ranking points from that tournament

or

pl. A 86 points
pl. B 19 points
team A/B 105 points

etc.

Of course, people wouldn't have to play with the same partner in every event, but it would be best, cause top 8 teams would qualify for SEC. It would maybe be wise to limit the number of players with whom you can team up over the course of the season, to, let's say, three? This would prevent the rankings list from having 305843789103178493201 "different teams"

This system wouldn't be complicated, wouldn't require additional managers etc., but it would still give some more fun to the game of tipping.

Any thoughts on this?

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Old Nov 27th, 2011, 09:59 AM   #2
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Old Nov 27th, 2011, 10:11 AM   #3
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just adding the points of the two team-mates is okay
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Old Nov 27th, 2011, 12:42 PM   #4
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Re: Tipping doubles (2012) ideas, suggestions...?

I want ot play real doubles, I mean picking the doubles winner...
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^ yes, good idea.
we have DTT on MTF and that's quite exciting too.
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Old Nov 27th, 2011, 02:10 PM   #6
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I want ot play real doubles, I mean picking the doubles winner...
I'm afraid it would be dificult to do, because we would need a lot of extra managers. Sure, the same manager could maybe run singles and doubles in some small event, but imagine a grand slam...
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^ yes, good idea.
we have DTT on MTF and that's quite exciting too.
I already sent PM to one of the biggest members in Tennis Tipping to offer this one, I propose to make rankings, but I didn't have any answer
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Re: Tipping doubles (2012) ideas, suggestions...?

If it's just merely adding the two players points it doesn't really offer anything challenging.

I think tipping doubles would be great too, but that would require a lot of extra work.
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Re: Tipping doubles (2012) ideas, suggestions...?

Are we also working with titles? Because that would be great fun. So team A/B wins the title in this tournament en team C/D is the runner-up in that tournament.
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Old Nov 27th, 2011, 05:33 PM   #10
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Are we also working with titles? Because that would be great fun. So team A/B wins the title in this tournament en team C/D is the runner-up in that tournament.
I really don't understand what are you trying to say here. Could you try to explain?
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Are we also working with titles? Because that would be great fun. So team A/B wins the title in this tournament en team C/D is the runner-up in that tournament.
the point is that the player winning the singles title could be partnering someone who doesn't have such success on that very tournament.
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Re: Tipping doubles (2012) ideas, suggestions...?

Only thing I mean is that you have a title count for the doubles, just like singles.
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Old Nov 28th, 2011, 06:50 AM   #13
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Only thing I mean is that you have a title count for the doubles, just like singles.
Yes, of course there would be the title count, the rankings etc., most of what we have now in singles.

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Another point to consider - and this is adressed to all - do we want the defence of doubles points every year, or just a race system for each season? Point defence would probably require individual doubles rankings to be counted as well (along with team rankings), so that we know how much someone has to defend on a particular week, and also so that people are not forced to play with the same partner as 12 months ago. This could, for example, be done by dividing the team points in two and giving each player his/her half (like, 43 to each player if the team made 86 combined).

And another thing; what about bonus points? I'd say the same as in singles but award them to half the number of players than in singles (in other words, top 4 teams on IS, top 6 on PS and top 8 in GS).
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Re: Tipping doubles (2012) ideas, suggestions...?

I think it's better to defend doubles points every year so it allows a player to change their partner.

Also, I think it's better that you tip singles match for singles title and doubles match for doubles title. Otherwise it makes no difference other than adding the singles points together to produce a doubles winner based on the fact that you got a good partner or a bad partner. TT actually produces different winning teams in various stages of elimination so it's not just a mere points adding.

It creates a scenario where your doubles ranking is somewhat dependent on your partner and not just yourself.
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Old Nov 28th, 2011, 12:51 PM   #15
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Re: Tipping doubles (2012) ideas, suggestions...?

How about this; we play doubles (with doubles matches), only on Premier tournaments whose singles draw doesn't exceed 32 players, Grand slams and an SEC. That wouldn't require too many extra managers, and since the TOC in Sofia doesn't have a doubles draw why bother even playing doubles on IS events. This would mean that we'd play doubles on the following tournaments.

Brisbane
Sydney
Australian Open
Paris
Doha
Stuttgart
Brussels
Roland Garros
Eastbourne
Wimbledon
Stanford
New Haven
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Moscow
SEC Istanbul (this one could easily be managed by the same person as singles).

So this way we would need 14 extra managers - do you people think it could be done?
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