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Old Dec 23rd, 2011, 04:06 AM   #1
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Should Asian Americans enlist in the US Military?

Just a few months back, Henry Lew committed suicide (or was shot; contradicting reports) after hazing. Now there is this:
http://www.ourchinatown.org/2011/12/...y-chens-death/

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Just last week, a vigil for Private Danny Chen of Chinatown was held in Lower Manhattan to demand answers for the cause of his death.

Now, after two months of mounting pressure from the community and Chinese-American advocacy groups, the Army has formally charged eight officers with his death.

During a news conference in Chinatown on Wednesday morning, Danny’s mother, Mrs. Suz Zhen Chen wept when the announcement of the charges were made. She was surrounded by her husband, family, friends, and local officials who were delighted by the news.

Five of the officers charged are: Staff Sgt. Andrew J. Van Bockel, Sgt. Adam M. Holcomb, Sgt. Jeffrey T. Hurst, Specialist Thomas P. Curtis and Specialist Ryan Offutt, all of Third Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, First Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 25thInfantry Division. In a statement by the Army, their charges were involuntary manslaughter, assault, dereliction of duty, reckless endangerment, communicating a threat, maltreatment and making a false official statement.

Staff Sgt. Blaine G. Dugas was charged with dereliction of duty and making a false statement. Lt. Daniel J. Schwartz was the only one charged with dereliction of duty. Sgt. Travis F. Carden was charged with assault and maltreatment.

Chen’s body was found in a guard tower and died from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound on October 3 in Kandahar Province, Afghanistan. The investigation continues if the gunshot wound was self-inflicted or if his death was a homicide.

Earlier in the investigation, it has been reported to Chen’s family that Private Chen was a victim of hazing while serving in Afghanistan. His letters from Afghanistan spoke of physical abuse and ethnic slurs.

In a statement made by NYC Councilwoman, Margaret Chin, “The charges prove that the actions of these soldiers were contributing factors in Danny’s death. These individuals must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.”

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In October, three Marines were to face court-martial in charges on the death of 21 year-old Marine Lance Cpl. Harry Lew of California, another Chinese-American.
Lew was found dead on April 3rd from a self-inflicted gunshot after being hazed and allegedly beaten by fellow members. He was stationed in Oahu and was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, and 3rd Marine Division. Disciplinary action on the three Marines charged has not been clear.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2011, 06:16 AM   #2
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Re: Should Asian Americans enlist in the US Military?

Probably not. In America, everyone is taught Black racism history but neglect other races, especially Asians. I myself was bullied quite a bit in Elementary school by both black and white students. Granted they probably didn't know any better but it still hurts when I think about it til this day. The mockery of my race/culture stopped as I progressed through middle school and high school but it is definitely a disgrace that adults would do this type of bullying to another human being.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2011, 07:13 AM   #3
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Old Dec 23rd, 2011, 07:42 AM   #4
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Re: Should Asian Americans enlist in the US Military?

I wouldn't. But that's because I have no interest.

Frankly, I know plenty of Asians in the military and they're all accepted. Not saying there aren't asian jokes being made, but you'd be lying if black jokes, jewish jokes, gay jokes etc. weren't being made within their unit either.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2011, 02:16 PM   #6
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Re: Should Asian Americans enlist in the US Military?

If you considered yourself to be an American and you wanted to enlist then I don't see why you shouldn't on account of your ethnic origin.

To some extent things never move on unless you challenge them.

It does require a certain degree of resolve that I can't say I'd have if it were me.
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Re: Should Asian Americans enlist in the US Military?

Lumping people together almost always leads to some degree of ethnicism. There are many individuals who would do well in the US military who are "Asian American." And there are many who wouldn't.


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Re: Should Asian Americans enlist in the US Military?

And lumping together the descendants of people from nations as diverse as - for example - Cambodia, China, India, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Philippines, Taiwan, Thailand, and Vietnam seems really ludicrous. Even generalizing their experiences in the US have been very different.

Of course, the term was developed by activists as a way to create a larger (and therefore more powerful) grouping.
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Re: Should Asian Americans enlist in the US Military?

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If you considered yourself to be an American and you wanted to enlist then I don't see why you shouldn't on account of your ethnic origin.
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