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Old Oct 19th, 2012, 06:34 PM   #4741
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Venus beats Vinci 7-6, 6-4 and advances to the semifinal!

Edit: Thinking about it, Venus' reason for playing Luxembourg is probably pretty straightforward: she wants to be a seed for AO and winning this Intl. should raise her to rank #24 or so.
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Old Oct 20th, 2012, 12:14 PM   #4742
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Whoever wins the other SF, let's hope for a long match so Caro won't be too disadvantaged tomorrow.
Offhand I'd say Caro's chances would be a little better against AI but I think it'd do her more good to beat SS.

Will they try overdo the 18 breaks in Caro's match? 3 breaks in a row so far, 3-2 AI.
4th break, 5-2 AI.
6-2. 3 aces AI, 3 DFs SS.
3 holds, 2-1 SS.
5th ace AI, her serve is pretty good today. 2-2.
Ace #7, 3-3.
First break in the set, 5-3 SS.
6-3 SS.
Break, 3-2 SS. MTO AI.
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Old Oct 20th, 2012, 01:27 PM   #4743
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Ana, Sam, no need to rush this final set. Take all the time you need ladies.
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Old Oct 20th, 2012, 01:33 PM   #4744
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Ivanovic is in trouble. Probably an injury.
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Old Oct 20th, 2012, 01:46 PM   #4745
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Probably the decisive break, 5-2 SS.
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Old Oct 20th, 2012, 01:50 PM   #4746
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Stosur wins 2-6, 6-3, 6-2 in 1h51m.
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Old Oct 20th, 2012, 03:30 PM   #4747
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If you want to watch Luxembourg.
http://atdhe.tw/watch.php?id=458883

Niculescu 6-1.
Niculescu wins 1 & 3

Petkovic comes from 3-5, 15-40 down to take the opener 7-5
Venus takes second set 6-4
Venus wins 5-7, 6-4, 6-4
The match lasted 2h38m, so Caro didn't get the 'honor' of winning today's longest match.
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Hey Bruce...Rebecca Marino was back in action this week. She won a $25k challenger tournament in Rock Hill.
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Old Oct 23rd, 2012, 12:00 PM   #4749
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During the Moscow final, Jo Durie talked about how she thought YEC should be enlargened from 8 to 12 players because the current format cuts out too many good players. She and many others would've liked to see players like Stosur and Caro compete in Istanbul also. But much as I would've liked to see Caro play in Istanbul, I don't see how a system with 12 players could work?

If you tried the current two-groups system with 6 players in each group, then the champion would have to play 7 matches! That's too much this late in the season, it would be begging for a number of retirements.
Three groups with 4 players each wouldn't work, either. Then you'd have 6 players advancing, a useless number.
Four groups with 3 players each - where the two best from each group advance to QF - might work. But there'd be one big drawback: a very real possibility of at least one group ending with all three players tied with a 1-1 match score and a 2-2 or 3-3 set score. When I think of how tricky it often is to find the players to advance from RR with the current 3-matches-per-player system, how much worse would it be if they only played two matches each?

Another option would be to simply double the current format to 16 players and 4 alternates. But I think that would lead to YEC losing much of it's glamour and allure if we had to go so far down the rankings. Even if the entire top 20 was ready to play (unlikely), then this year we'd see such as Vinci playing and Makarova as an alternate. Not much super final about that.

The current system with 8 players and 2 alternates is by no means perfect, but I don't have a better suggestion.
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^ 4 groups with either 3 or 4 players and only the winner of each group goes to the SF?
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Old Oct 23rd, 2012, 03:41 PM   #4751
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^ 4 groups with either 3 or 4 players and only the winner of each group goes to the SF?
4x4 players are just too many players.
4x3 players is still the same problem with three-way ties (1-1) in RR, though it's just one player progressing from the group. And even if they avoid the tie-problem, the champion would - despite more players - have to play fewer matches than now, only four. That's too few for such an important tournament, I think.

Aga beats Petra 3 & 2!
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Well done to Aga for beating Petra
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Aga wins easily first match with Kvitova in Istanbul .

Statistics: Aga 11 W/5 UE with 3 aces/0 DF, Petra 23 W/41 UE with 2 aces/6 DF. Very solid play from Aga, but Petra played today poor, weak moving and timing, plus tons off errors. W'll see what happend next.

Still don't belive that Caro not play Istanbul.
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Nouni made a wrong call! Admittedly, we are talking about millimeters, but still!
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Angie was down 0-3 and BP, now 3-3.
Serena takes the opener 6-4. Angie had GP for 5-5 but DFed.
Serena wins 4 & 1.
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