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Old Jul 15th, 2011, 02:38 AM   #1
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Biggest ironies of the WTA?

What do you think are the biggest ironies? Three immediately come to my mind:

1. Conchita Martinez wins only 1 slam title in her entire career, and it comes at Wimbledon.
2. Martina Hingis wins every single slam except the one that most thought she would definitely win - Roland Garros.
3. Na Li wins only 1 slam title in her entire career, and it comes at Roland Garros.
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Old Jul 15th, 2011, 02:43 AM   #2
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3. Na Li wins only 1 slam title in her entire career, and it comes at Roland Garros.
Did I miss the news about her retirement? If not then that's probably a rather premature statement...
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Old Jul 15th, 2011, 02:45 AM   #3
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Hingis winning Wimbledon was tremendous luck. A counterpuncher winning Wimbledon on fast grass against S&Ver
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Old Jul 15th, 2011, 03:22 AM   #4
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^ I always thought Hingis was an all-court player.
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Did I miss the news about her retirement? If not then that's probably a rather premature statement...
This.

He missed the "so far"
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Old Jul 15th, 2011, 03:29 AM   #6
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^ I always thought Hingis was an all-court player.
Hingis wasn't an all court player. She had no power in her serve or forehand to qualify. However smart she was on court, despite all her brilliance and point construction, the heart of her game was still defensive. A true all court player (Steffi Graf, Roger Federer) has no easily exploitable weaknesses; Hingis was vulnerable to being hit off court. That's why I am always annoyed when people are so quick to label a particular player "all court" when in reality only a handful of such players existed since the sport was invented.
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Hingis wasn't an all court player. She had no power in her serve or forehand to qualify. However smart she was on court, despite all her brilliance and point construction, the heart of her game was still defensive. A true all court player (Steffi Graf, Roger Federer) has no easily exploitable weaknesses; Hingis was vulnerable to being hit off court. That's why I am always annoyed when people are so quick to label a particular player "all court" when in reality only a handful of such players existed since the sport was invented.
You're such a troll. Hingis a counter-puncher? You're TOO FUNNY. Why is Venus always cramping when she plays Hingis if Hingis is a counter puncher. Dumb troll is dumb.
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Old Jul 15th, 2011, 03:42 AM   #8
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You're such a troll. Hingis a counter-puncher? You're TOO FUNNY. Why is Venus always cramping when she plays Hingis if Hingis is a counter puncher. Dumb troll is dumb.
Hingis was a counterpuncher. Open up youtube and actually watch her matches. Who the hell cares about specific H2H?

Hingis was always prone to getting overpowered, especially on faster courts. A true all court player has no such problem.
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Here's an irony: the woman widely regarded as the greatest of all time got a major assist from a psychotic knife-wielding stan.
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1. mauresmo at roland garros
2. venus = 7 slams only?
3. monica seles
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Here's an irony: the woman widely regarded as the greatest of all time got a major assist from a psychotic knife-wielding stan.
Is this really where you want this thread to go?
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Old Jul 15th, 2011, 04:16 AM   #12
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Hingis was a counterpuncher. Open up youtube and actually watch her matches. Who the hell cares about specific H2H?

Hingis was always prone to getting overpowered, especially on faster courts. A true all court player has no such problem.
I said nothing about H2H...talk about delusional. Hingis is prone to getting overpowered...by a few elite players. However she is nothing close to a counter-puncher. How many times has Venus cramped against Coezter, Sanchez-Vicario? They are the true counter-punchers. Venus cramped up almost everytime she played Hingis, and on fast surfaces at that. So don't go rambling like you know Hingis AT ALL cause you don't and you look like a fool. BTW name me a counter-puncher that has won 5+ singles slam titles and 9+ doubles slam titles
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Old Jul 15th, 2011, 04:34 AM   #13
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I said nothing about H2H...talk about delusional. Hingis is prone to getting overpowered...by a few elite players. However she is nothing close to a counter-puncher. How many times has Venus cramped against Coezter, Sanchez-Vicario? They are the true counter-punchers. Venus cramped up almost everytime she played Hingis, and on fast surfaces at that. So don't go rambling like you know Hingis AT ALL cause you don't and you look like a fool. BTW name me a counter-puncher that has won 5+ singles slam titles and 9+ doubles slam titles
Chris Evert. The greatest counterpuncher of all time. Consistent. Solid backhand. Immense mental strength.

You seem to think that I use the term "counterpuncher" in a derogatory way, which isn't the case. I am simply not a fan of that particular play style.

Hingis, Henin, Evert, they were all defensive players at heart and it took a lot out of them to attack and play offensive tennis when it mattered and I admire them for it. However when it comes to pure entertainment, I always prefered Steffi Graf, Novotna, Navratilova for their offensive play.

That is why I am a fan of Kvitova right now. The cowardly grinding from the baseline, the moonballing and pushing left a bad taste in my mouth for quite a long time now. Once tennis recovers the lost art of attacking first strike style of play, the more exciting it will be for the game.
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Well, 11 replies and 0 actual answers.

Although fair enough point about Li, put it down as "so far".
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Hingis winning Wimbledon was tremendous luck. A counterpuncher winning Wimbledon on fast grass against S&Ver
Was it luck that she was one match win from winning all four majors that year?
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