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Old Jul 8th, 2011, 06:13 PM   #1
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Julia Görges statistics and ranking thread

Julia's General index


As of July 26th. 2012 (only WTA regular tour)

General facts

- Julia is 248-156 lifetime (61.39%) and 139-101 (57.91%) on the regular tour.
  • Julia is 122-19 when having won the first set, last defeat Wimbledon 2012 to #14 Ana Ivanovic 3-6 6-3 6-4.
  • Julia is 15-82 (15.46%) when having lost the first set.

- Julia has played 47 Qualification matches and is 31-16, last qualifying match played Sydney 2010.

- Julia is 78-71 (59-54) on hard, 47-41 on hard outdoors.
  • Julia is 74-12 after having won the first set on hard.


- Her other surfaces displays as followed, 39-24 (105-49) on clay, 5-5 on grass and 18-6 (8-1) on carpet.
  • On the regular tour, Julia is 38-6 on clay and 4-0 on grass after having won the first set.

- Julia's main draw participation displays 17 in slams, 34 in Premiers and 36 in International events for a total of 87. She has won 2 titles, 0.022, for 2 finals 0.022 and 11 SF appearances (0.126), 4 won 0.047.

- Julia has played 74 3 sets and is 42-32.
  • Julia is 2-2 against top 10 players.
  • Julia is 3-5 against top 20 players.

The field

- Julia is 7-16 against top 10 players (last victory Rome 2012 against #7 marion Bartoli 6-3 6-1. Julia has won 2 of her last 9 matches against top 10 players.

- Julia's longest losing streak to top 10 players is of 8. It happened between Doha 2007 and Copenhagen 2010 she had only won 1 set in 8 matches (Caroline Wozniacki, Copenhagen).

- Julia is 4-11 against top 5 players and was on a 3 consecutive losing streak up until Dubaď 2012 (l. to Victoria Azarenka (3), Maria Sharapova, Samantha Stosur (1)).

- Julia is 10-30 against top 20 players and has only beaten a top 20 player twice in her last 11 attempts.
  • From Doha 2007 to Palermo 2010, Julia was on a 14 consecutive losing streak to top 20 players and 28 straight sets lost. It's her biggest losing streak to players ranked between 1-20.

- Julia is 8-4 when she has taken the first set against a top 20 player (6-1 against top 10's). Julia has won her last 6 matches when she has taken the opening set against a top 10 player.

- She is also 2-26 when she has lost the first set against a top 20 player (1-15 against top 10 players).

- Julia is 131-85 to players outside the top 10 and 115-18 when she has won the first set.

- Julia has only won 1 of her last 7 matches to top 10 players on hard and 2 of her last 13. Has only won 4 of 26 sets.

- Since Julia entered the top 20, Richel Hogenkamp (NED) ranked 211 when she qualified for the main draw in Bad Gastein is now the lowest ranked player to whom she has lost to. She lost to her 3-6 6-3 6-3.

- Richel Hogenkamp is also now the lowest ranked player to whom Julia has lost on a WTA tour main draw. The last player was Johanna Larsson in Stockholm 2008 3-6 7-6(5) 6-4 ranked 189 at the time.

Winning/Losing streaks

- Julia's biggest winning streak is of 9 and it occurred on clay between Stuttgart and Madrid. In that streak, she beat 4 top 10 players and lost to 1. The average rank of the opponents she beat was of 47.22.

- Julia's biggest losing streak is of 4 between Bad Gastein 2012 and Carlsbad and all her opponents were lower ranked than her when she lost to them (avg. 68.5).

Other

- Julia is 2-0 against Russians in 2012 and 7-16 lifetime. Julia is 2-12 when she has lost the first set to a Russian player, last win Svetlana Kuznetsova Dubai.

[TO BE CONTINUED]

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Head-To-Head

<<Updated : Akgul Amanmuradova, Barbora Zahalova Strykova>>

Code:
Names	                     Nat	W	L	T	PCT
Agnes Szavay	             HUN	1	1	2	0,500
Agnieszka Radwanska          POL        0       1       1       0,000
Aleksandra Wozniak	     CAN	3	0	2	1,000
Alizé Cornet	             FRA	3	0	3	1,000
Ana Ivanovic	             SRB	1	3	4	0,250
Anabel Medina Guarrigues     ESP	3	2	5	0,600
Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova     RUS	1	1	1	0,500
Anastasia Pivovarova	     RUS	1	0	1	1,000
Anastasia Rodionova	     AUS	2	0	2	1,000
Anastasija Sevastova         LAT        2       0       2       1,000
Anastasiya Yakimova          BLR        1       1       2       0,500
Andrea Hlavackova	     CZE	2	0	2	1,000
Andrea Petkovic	             GER	1	0	1	1,000
Angelique Kerber	     GER	1	2	1	0,333
Anna Gerasimou	             GRE	2	0	2	1,000
Arantxa Parra Santonja	     ESP	1	1	2	0,500
Arantxa Rus                  NED        0       1       1       0,000
Aravane Rezai                FRA        1       0       1       1,000
Ayumi Morita	             JPN	1	0	1	1,000
Barbora Zahalova Strykova    CZE	3	2	3	0,600
Bethanie Mattek Sands	     USA	1	2	3	0,333
Bojana Jovanovski	     SRB	0	1	1	0,000
Carla Suarez Navarro	     ESP	2	1	3	0,667
Caroline Wozniacki	     DEN	2	2	4	0,500
Casey Dellacqua              AUS        1       0       1       1,000
Coco Wandeweghe	             USA	0	1	1	0,000
Corinna Dentoni	             ITA	2	0	2	1,000
Dinara Safina	             RUS	2	1	3	0,667
Dominika Cibulkova	     SVK	0	1	1	0,000
Edina Gallovits Hall	     ROU	1	0	1	1,000
Ekaterina Bychkova	     RUS	1	0	1	1,000
Elena Baltacha	             GBR	3	1	3	0,750
Elena Vesnina	             RUS	0	3	3	0,000
Eleni Danilidou	             GRE	3	0	2	1,000
Eva Birnerova	             CZE	1	0	1	1,000
Evgenyia Rodina              RUS        0       1       1       0,000
Flavia Pennetta	             ITA	0	1	1	0,000
Garbine Muguroza Blanco      ESP        1       0       1       1,000
Greta Arn	             HUN	2	3	4	0,400
Han Xinyun	             CHN	0	2	2	0,000
Heather Watson               GBR        1       0       1       1,000
Hermoso Ximena	             ESP	1	0	1	1,000
Ioana Raluca Olaru	     ROU	1	2	3	0,333
Iveta Benesova	             CZE	0	1	1	0,000
Jelena Jankovic	             SRB	1	3	4	0,250
Jie Zheng	             CHN	0	2	2	0,000
Jill Craybas	             USA	1	1	2	0,500
Johanna Larsson	             SWE	1	1	2	0,500
Justine Henin	             BEL	0	2	2	0,000
Kaia Kanepi	             EST	2	1	3	0,667
Karin Knapp	             ITA	0	1	1	0,000
Katarina Srebotnik	     SLO	2	0	2	1,000
Kateryna Bondarenko	     UKR	1	1	2	0,500
Kim Clijsters                BEL        0       1       1       0,000
Klara Zakopalova	     CZE	2	2	4	0,500
Kristina Barrois	     GER	3	0	3	1,000
Ksenia Pervak	             RUS	0	2	2	0,000
Laura Pou tio	             ESP	0	2	2	0,000
Lilia Osterloh	             USA	2	0	2	1,000
Lindsey Davenport	     USA	0	1	1	0,000
Lucie Hradecka	             CZE	3	1	3	0,750
Lucie Safarova	             CZE	2	1	3	0,667
Mandy Minella	             LUX	2	0	2	1,000
Maria Elena Camerin	     ITA	2	1	3	0,667
Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez  ESP        0       2       2       0,000
Maria Kirilenko	             RUS	0	2	1	0,000
Maria Sharapova	             RUS	0	3	3	0,000
Marina Erakovic	             NZL	0	1	1	0,000
Marion Bartoli	             FRA	1	2	2	0,333
Mariya Koryttseva	     UKR	1	0	1	1,000
Martina Caregaro	     ITA	1	0	1	1,000
Mathilde Johansson	     FRA	2	0	2	1,000
Melanie Oudin	             USA	1	1	2	0,500
Melinda Czink	             HUN	1	0	1	1,000
Michaella Krajicek	     NED	1	0	1	1,000
Olga Govortsova	             BLR	1	1	2	0,500
Olivia Sanchez	             FRA	1	0	1	1,000
Pauline Parmentier           FRA        1       0       1       1,000
Petra Cetkovska              CZE        1       0       1       1,000
Petra Kvitova	             CZE	1	0	0	1,000
Petra Martic	             CRO	1	0	1	1,000
Polona Hercog                SLO        2       2       4       0,500
Rebecca Marino	             CAN	1	0	1	1,000
Richel Hogenkamp             NED        0       1       1       0,000
Roberta Vinci	             ITA	0	1	1	0,000
Romina Oprandi	             ITA	2	0	1	1,000
Sabine Lisicki	             GER	1	1	2	0,500
Samantha Stosur	             AUS	2	1	3	0,666
Sara Errani	             ITA	1	1	2	0,500
Serena Williams	             ITA	0	2	2	0,000
Serverine Beltrame	     FRA	0	2	2	0,000
Sesil Karatantcheva	     KAZ	1	1	2	0,500
Shahar Peer	             ISR	2	0	2	1,000
Shuai Peng                   CHN        0       1       1       0,000
Sloane Stephens	             USA	0	1	1	0,000
Sofia Arvidsson	             SWE	1	0	1	1,000
Sorana Cirstea	             ROU	1	1	2	0,500
Stefanie Vögele	             SUI	1	1	2	0,500
Svetlana Kuznetsova	     RUS	0	2	2	0,000
Sybille Bammer	             AUT	2	0	2	1,000
Tamira Paszek	             AUT	2	1	3	0,667
Timea Baczinszky	     SUI	1	1	2	0,500
Urszula Radwanska	     POL	0	3	3	0,000
Varvara Lepchenko            USA        0       2       2       0,000
Vera Dushevina	             RUS	0	1	1	0,000
Vera Zvonareva	             RUS	0	1	1	0,000
Victoria Azarenka	     BLR	1	3	4	0,250
Virgine Razzano	             FRA	1	0	1	1,000
Yanina Wickmayer	     BEL	1	4	5	0,200
Yurika Sema                  JPN        1       0       1       1,000
Zec peskiric Masa	     SLO	3	0	3	1,000


Total	                      115	130	109	239	0,544
I. H2H vs. Nations

II. H2H vs. top 10 and ex-top 10 players present in the top 100
III. H2H vs. actual top 10 - Here.
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General Win-Loss record : WTA tour and Lifetime

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Win Loss record by events

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In Fed Cup

Code:
Event	          Category	Surface	  I/O	W	L	T
Fed Cup 2008	   Week 1	   H	   O	0	1	1
Fed Cup 2010	   Playoffs	   C	   O    0	1	1
Fed Cup 2011	   World Group	   C	   I	1	1	2
Fed Cup 2011	   Playoffs	   C	   I	1	0	1
Fed Cup 2012	   Week 1	   H	   I	0	1	1

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Career highlight

Code:
2005
Win/Loss : 2-7 (0.222)
YE ranking : 1132
Titles : -
Best GS result : -
Best regular tour result : -

2006
Win/Loss : 32-13 (0.711)
YE ranking : 430
Titles : 2
Best GS result : -
Best regular tour result : -
Notable facts :
  • Won 2 consecutive ITF's (Walhstedt, Bielefeld)
  • Winning streak of 14 on ITF tour stopped in Erding (F)
2007 Win/Loss : 52-22 (0.702) YE ranking : 126 Titles : 2 Best GS result : US Open (R128) Best regular tour result : Stockholm (SF) Notable facts : - 2008 Win/Loss : 30-24 (0.555) YE ranking : 108 Titles : 0 Best GS result : Wimbledon (R64) Best regular tour result : Memphis (QF), Porotoroz (SF) Notable facts : - 2009 Win/Loss : 36-21 (0.631) YE ranking : 77 Titles : 1 Best GS result : (R128) Best regular tour result : Quebec City (SF) Notable facts :
  • First etnry in top 100 April 6 2008 (99)
2010 Win/Loss : 36-26 (0.692) YE ranking : 43 Titles : 2 Best GS result : AO, RG, US Open (R64) Best regular tour result : Luxembourg (F), Palermo (SF) Notable facts :
  • First top 50 debut, July 26 2010, (42)
  • Wins first WTA regular tour title, Bad Gastein, Timea Baczinski
2011 Win/Loss : 38-25 (0.603) YE ranking : 21 Titles : 1 Best GS result : All four majors (R32) Best regular tour result : Madrid (SF) Notable facts :
  • First Premier Event title, Stuttgart, Caroline Wozniacki
  • First win over a reigning #1, Caroline Wozniacki (2)
  • First German to win Stuttgart since Anke Huber 1994
  • First top 20 debut, May 9 2011
  • First SF into a Mandatory event, Victoria Azarenka
  • Best clay court season 18-7 (0.720)
  • Failed to defend title in Bad Gastein, Laura Pous-Tio
2012 Win/Loss : 25-17 (0.595) YE ranking : - Titles : - Best GS result : Australian Open (R16) Best regular tour result : Dubaď (F), GDF Suez (QF) Notable facts :
  • First hard-court Premier Event final, Agnieszka Radwanska
  • First time into a second week of a major, Agnieszka Radwanska
  • Best result in a Mandatory event on Hard (R16, Miami)
  • Failed to defend Stuttgart (l. Samantha Stosur [5])
  • Worst lost to a lower ranked player on a WTA main draw since Stockholm 2008 to Hogenkamp (NED, ranked 211)

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Julia's best tournaments in numbers

Code:
Luxembourg 2010

Total points won : 347/637 (54.47%)
---- Service ----
Aces : 30 (avg. 6)
DFs : 6 (avg. 1.2)
1st. % : 207/304 (68.0)
1st. % W : 150/207 (72.4)
2nd. % W : 48/97 (49.4)
Break-points faced : 7
Break-points saved (%) : 72.0
Service points win (%) : 65.1

---- Return of serve ----
Break-points opportunities : 42
Break-points converted (%) : 42.8

Return points won [%] : 149 [44.7]
1st. return points won [%] : 81 [40.5]
2nd. return points won [%] : 68 [51.1]

---- Games/Sets ----

Sets W/L : 8-3
Games W/L : 58-37 [95 ; 61.0%]
Avg. games W/L : 5.3-3.4



Bad Gastein 2011

Total points won : 416/752 (55.32%)
---- Service ----
Aces : 25 (avg. 5)
DFs : 18 (avg. 3.6)
1st. % : 229/391 (58.5)
1st. % W : 158/229 (69)
2nd. % W : 73/162 (45)
Break-points faced : 36
Break-points saved (%) : 58.3
Service points win (%) : 59

---- Return of serve ----
Break-points opportunities : 48
Break-points converted (%) : 64.5

Return points won [%] : 185 [51.2]
1st. return points won [%] : 92 [45.0]
2nd. return points won [%] : 93 [59.2]

---- Games/Sets ----

Sets W/L : 10-2
Games W/L : 72-42 [114 ; 63.1%]
Avg. games W/L : 6-3.5



Stuttgart 2011

Total points won : 331/624 (53.04%)
---- Service ----
Aces : 18 (avg. 3.6)
DFs : 7 (avg. 1.4)
1st. % : 197/296 (66.5)
1st. % W : 143/197 (72.5)
2nd. % W : 53/99 (53.5)
Break-points faced : 21
Break-points saved (%) : 66.6
Service points win (%) : 66.2 

---- Return of serve ----
Break-points opportunities : 31
Break-points converted (%) : 45.1

Return points won [%] : 135 [41.1]
1st. return points won [%] : 76 [34.2]
2nd. return points won [%] : 59 [55.6]

---- Games/Sets ----

Sets W/L : 8-2
Games W/L : 57-42 [99 ; 57.5%]
Avg. games W/L : 5.7-4.2



Dubaď 2012

Total points won : 417/798 (52.25%)
---- Service ----
Aces : 23 (avg. 4.6)
DFs : 12 (avg. 2.4)
1st. % : 254/403 (63)
1st. % W : 165/254 (64.9)
2nd. % W : 71/149 (47.6)
Break-points faced : 42
Break-points saved (%) : 57.1
Service points win (%) : 58.5

---- Return of serve ----
Break-points opportunities : 47
Break-points converted (%) : 46.8

Return points won [%] : 178 [45.0]
1st. return points won [%] : 114 [43.0]
2nd. return points won [%] : 64 [49.2]

---- Games/Sets ----

Sets W/L : 8-4
Games W/L : 66-55 [121 ; 54.5%]
Avg. games W/L : 5.5-4.5

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Winners/unforced Statistics

Code:
Year	Matches	      TP	W	UE	TP Opp	W Opp	UE opp	FE	AM	SM	TP All
2007	US 1st	      43	19	32	66	16	13	11	-2	30	109
2009	AO 1st	      65	17	33	78	17	30	18	2	35	143
	RG 1st	      53	22	22	63	22	11	20	20	42	116
	Wim 1st	      74	31	33	79	10	15	28	26	59	153
	US 1st	      44	18	26	62	12	18	8	0	26	106
2010	AO 2nd	      39	17	36	58	9	11	11	-8	28	97
	RG 1st	      67	21	4	47	14	12	34	51	55	114
	RG 2nd	      29	12	20	59	13	4	13	5	25	88
	Wim 1st	      55	36	25	73	20	9	10	21	46	128
2011	AO 2nd	      97	35	44	97	29	45	17	8	52	194
	AO 3rd	      89	32	32	89	32	32	25	25	57	178
	Stuttgart QF	71	26	21	64	24	18	27	32	53	135
	Stuttgart SF	100	50	28	94	29	24	26	48	76	194
	Stuttgart F	78	38	29	65	9	10	30	39	68	143
	Madrid 2nd	98	17	25	96	27	53	28	20	45	194
	Madrid 3rd	79	36	38	76	11	21	22	20	58	155
	Madrid SF	48	24	37	65	11	13	11	-2	35	113
	RG 1st	        67	27	24	47	10	27	13	16	40	114
	RG 2nd	        89	30	34	82	15	29	30	26	60	171
	RG 3rd	        85	48	30	88	14	17	20	38	68	173
	Wim 3rd	        78	35	19	73	11	11	32	48	67	151
	East 1st	55	16	33	73	19	16	23	6	39	128
	Toronto 1st	59	18	16	40	6	21	20	22	38	99
	Toronto 2nd	56	20	21	69	18	14	22	21	42	125
	US 2nd	        61	30	23	40	3	13	18	25	48	101
        US 3rd	        69	31	44	81	14	19	19	23	50	150
2012	AO 1st	        68	2	2	57	0	3	63	63	65	125
	AO 2nd	        37	15	17	22	2	11	11	9	26	59
	AO 3rd	        91	47	37	75	21	32	12	22	59	166
	AO 4th	        22	11	27	50	10	3	8	-8	19	72
	Auckland 1st	115	38	62	106	19	51	26	2	64	221
	GDF 1st	        58	35	16	33	4	15	8	27	43	91
	Dubaď 1st	101	31	40	98	19	37	33	24	64	199
	Dubaď QF	99	49	27	85	26	24	26	48	75	184
	Dubaď SF	94	47	56	93	8	28	19	10	66	187
	IW 3rd	        69	28	43	55	7	30	11	-4	39	124
	IW 4th	        37	13	28	55	10	13	11	-4	24	92
											
		        68,62	27,62	29,30	69,00	14,62	20,35	20,65	18,97	48,27	137,62
		        2539	1022	1084	2553	541	753	764	702	1786	5092
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Julia's total points
[Winners + Forcing shots + Opponent's unforced]
Winners : 40.12%
Unforced shots : 29.71%
Forced shots : 30.16%
Shot-making : 30.16% of her game

Her opponent's total points
Winners : 21.31%
Unforced shots : 42.07%
Forced shots : 36.61%
Shot-making : 36.61% of their game

How Julia's offense factors
Winners in total points all : 20.05%
Unforced in total points all : 21.04%
Forced errors in total points all : 15.07%
- Forced error, [Total points - (Winners + Opponent's unforced)], illustration of controlled aggressive tennis or controlled aggressive play. In Julia case, her forced error count is much lower than her winner's or/and unforced count in average which means she relies on a riskier game to win her matches. Considering the fact that Julia takes charge of the game winners/unforced, her opponents relies thus more on forcing her into error if they can't answer her aggressive style with the same, 36.61% of their games.

- Aggressive margin, [(Forcing shots + Winners) - Unforced] margin of points won by Julia with her aggressive plays/sequences. Can show how good she is with her offensive play and at ending points with a successful out-come.

- Shot-making, [Winners + Forcing shots] quantity of winning shots Julia strikes by match.

[To be continued]

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Great work Vikapower

I've found some slight mistakes

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Best regular tour result : Quebec City (SF)
That was 2009.
In 2010 her best tour results were: Bad Gastein (Win), Luxembourg (Final) and Palermo (SF)

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  • Best clay court season 14-3 (0.823)
I think it was 18-7
Fed Cup (both ties were on clay) 2-1
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Charleston 3-1
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RG 2-1
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I've found some slight mistakes



That was 2009.
In 2010 her best tour results were: Bad Gastein (Win), Luxembourg (Final) and Palermo (SF)
Corrected -- If there are any other things... I'm trying to find other notable facts for Julia, some other special other achievements lol didn't have much time I'll search that again.

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Fed Cup (both ties were on clay) 2-1
Bogota 1-1
Acapulco 1-1
Charleston 3-1
Stuttgart 5-0
Madrid 4-1
RG 2-1
Bad Gastein 0-1
Yes indeed, I completely forgot to count Fed Cup -- also I forgot she had played Bogota and Acapulco too.
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You are doing the great work @Vikapower
Appearances in the Grand Slam still on minus - She just has to win RG


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Must have taken you ages to do this.
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Thanks Silesia

Dispeker, actually no but it was though finding the sync/organisation to keep getting everything right this what took me ages lol
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