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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 12:47 PM   #1381
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Oh Petra

There's something definitely not right. She's had virus after virus since February plus she's also had this stomach complaint since IW. I don't like that she keeps getting the "shits" (to put it bluntly). I hope she goes and sees a specialist.

Mind you, if she gets in touch with Pov, he might be able to diagnose it over the internet. He won't even need to examine her or speak to her, he will be able to tell what's wrong with her just by her presser
She's entering Serious Lisicki Territory here. Cause, like you, I've never heard of Petra complain about viruses and illness so much recently in one year (thrown in with the injuries).

Before she was just bad or didn't give two shits. Now we got to deal with all this?

And lord knows where here ranking's gonna drop--losing all those YEC points? And somehow, I wonder if she would have beaten Sharapova and won or lost to Vika ( in a good match) at the Australian, would she be having all these problems? It's almost like a snowball effect mentally (which weakens your immune system/opens you up and spreads bad karma, feelings and belief "i.e.--What Else Is Gonna Go Wrong")? And you believe, act and play like it.

Poor thing.

Nonetheless, Petra needs to seriously up her confidence and belief. Because with her ranking (even if she's 8th after YEC) and expectations, she can't wait for that big win against Sharapova, Serena or Vika to turn it around. It's bad enough she lost to Aga--Da Real Top 4's whipping girl, who she had only lost one set to in three previous matches.
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 12:59 PM   #1382
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She's entering Serious Lisicki Territory here. Cause, like you, I've never heard of Petra complain about viruses and illness so much recently in one year (thrown in with the injuries).

Before she was just bad or didn't give two shits. Now we got to deal with all this?

And lord knows where here ranking's gonna drop losing all those YEC points? And somehow, I wonder if she would have beaten Sharapova and won or lost to Vika ( in a good match) at the Australian, she would be having all these problems? It's almost like a snowball effect mentally (which weakens your immune system/opens you up and spreads bad karma, feelings and belief "i.e.--What Else Is Gonna Go Wrong")?

Poor thing.
More like Ana's territory of great talent journeywomen that has no fitness and injuries herself all the time and mentally flops to any kind of pressure i can't believe my two faves are so similar when they suck and when they GOAT FC match between this two could be hilarious shitfest or best stretch of tennis this year if they both show up


Petra can't drop out of Top8, only chance Stosur has to pass her if she wins YEC title but we all know this is not going to happen, so she's ok for AO draw
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 01:04 PM   #1383
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Okay,I can't sugarcoat this one,cuz it sounds like a bunch of crap to me.I've had moments in life when I was nervous...and I've had moments when I was sick,INCLUDING acute bronchitis which practically left me bedridden when I was about 6.....but I've NEVER been unable to distinguish between whether I was sick or nervous.MAYBE,at the outset of an illness,the symptoms would be so mild that Petra or someone else couldn't tell the difference,yet the flaw in that defense is that the milder symptoms wouldn't affect you that profoundly or stop you from competing.I'm trying my best to give Petra the benefit of the doubt here in considering that she may have worsened,symptoms-wise,AFTER the match.On the video,she DEFINITELY didn't resemble someone with serious bronchitis...she just looked like a player who was psychologically out of it and playing like garbage.

I don't know if it's her team,if it's Petra on her own(aye HOPE not),or if they're collaborating...but an athlete rightfully loses respect when he/she concocts asinine excuses for losing....Even Serena has been upbraided for this;when Henin kicked her ass in 3 straight Slam QFs in 2007,Ree ranted and blamed the 3rd loss on 'lucky shots'...though she seems to have put THAT sort of lunacy behind her in her advancing years.Maybe the worst was when AI lost to Zheng in 2008 and claimed that she lost b/c she didn't realize that she was getting tired in the 2nd set.Unless someone's on mind-altering drugs,I don't know how it's humanly possible to NOT know that you're getting tired...that's as stupid as NOT knowing whether or not you have a headache.
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Anyway,it's GOOD that Petra is disappointed with losing but,as Navrat could tell her,part of being a champion means owning up to subpar performances and using them as motivation to do better.I really,REALLY hope that Petra doesn't copy the seemingly-growing trend of mentally-fragile WTA divas who lean on every crutch they can find following a loss
My interpretation of Petra's excuse/reasons--from following her (not that I 100% buy it as justifiable), is that the "mild symptoms", and/or Petra's nervousness from getting them, prevented her from hitting the balls between the lines, and getting to them in time.

That's where the shaky hands and lead feet come from. Usually when Petra's gets that type of onset on the court--from (asthma and IW weakening for example), she freaks out, if she's not in good mind, health and form.

Need I say more?
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 01:18 PM   #1384
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More like Ana's territory of great talent journeywomen that has no fitness and injuries herself all the time and mentally flops to any kind of pressure i can't believe my two faves are so similar when they suck and when they GOAT FC match between this two could be hilarious shitfest or best stretch of tennis this year if they both show up


Petra can't drop out of Top8, only chance Stosur has to pass her if she wins YEC title but we all know this is not going to happen, so she's ok for AO draw
OH; OK (on AO Draw).

Well, let's not place her in Anci territory just yet. In fairness to Petra, this has been ONE season after her "breakthrough year". Ana's been stinking it up and/or disappointing her fans for the past 4 seasons now.

I said Lisicki, cause Petra's had many of the same complaints (regarding nagging foot/ankle, abdominal injuries and viruses), after LISICKI's own breakthrough Wimbledon (albeit it, rising from the death)--year--last year.

But I hear ya!!
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 02:31 PM   #1385
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My interpretation of Petra's excuse/reasons--from following her (not that I 100% buy it as justifiable), is that the "mild symptoms", and/or Petra's nervousness from getting them, prevented her from hitting the balls between the lines, and getting to them in time.

That's where the shaky hands and lead feet come from. Usually when Petra's gets that type of onset on the court--from (asthma and IW weakening for example), she freaks out, if she's not in good mind, health and form.

Need I say more?
You know as well as I that,if an NFL player constantly concocted injury excuses for subpar play,he'd become a laughingstock and he'd only get a very short leash if another team gave him a chance with a roster spot.In fact,I don't know ANY other sport where the org. itself and pussies in the media like Matt Cronin make so many excuses for dizzy airheads like Sabine and "VIP".In a way,I can't BLAME Petra for expecting the same treatment when her results are bad.Is the ATP beat the same way,or are journalists more candid about the male players(I rarely watch it so can't comment)?

Not to beat a dead horse,but Navratilova could make a huge difference not only in helping Petra mentally prepare but in how to react to potentially-impactful losses.
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all i could think in ATP currently is Tsonga who is experiencing a dismal year against top players and constant injury breaks, sounds familiar?
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From what I've read they're gonna make an extremely thorough medical checkup of Petra after the season to prevent all this C**P from hapenning again the next year. It seems that her organism is quite vulnerable (asthma, thyroid issues, etc.) so she should regularly take some meds or special nutritional supplements.

The sheer volume and frequency of her health issues are becoming really worrying. Training hard for two weeks and than fall to an illness that breaks out during her very first match?
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From what I've read they're gonna make an extremely thorough medical checkup of Petra after the season to prevent all this C**P from hapenning again the next year.
Why? We have our own resident Dr Pov to make the diagnosis

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It seems that her organism is quite vulnerable (asthma, thyroid issues, etc.) so she should regularly take some meds or special nutritional supplements.

The sheer volume and frequency of her health issues are becoming really worrying. Training hard for two weeks and than fall to an illness that breaks out during her very first match?
Being an Asthma/Emphysema sufferer myself, I know for a fact that when your Asthma plays up it can lower the oxygen level in your body, which in turn can bring on fatigue.

Also, if she has a thyroid problem (which we know she has), that can also make one extremely tired and lethargic.

She does need a thorough examination and something needs to be done. It's upsetting for her, her family, friends and fans to see such a wonderful, talented woman have these health issues, which is stopping her from fulfilling her true potential
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You know as well as I that,if an NFL player constantly concocted injury excuses for subpar play,he'd become a laughingstock and he'd only get a very short leash if another team gave him a chance with a roster spot.In fact,I don't know ANY other sport where the org. itself and pussies in the media like Matt Cronin make so many excuses for dizzy airheads like Sabine and "VIP".In a way,I can't BLAME Petra for expecting the same treatment when her results are bad.Is the ATP beat the same way,or are journalists more candid about the male players(I rarely watch it so can't comment)?

Not to beat a dead horse,but Navratilova could make a huge difference not only in helping Petra mentally prepare but in how to react to potentially-impactful losses.
Well, no complaints there (on the Martina comments).

And I will agree Petra's latest news, can be seen as a little specious indeed.
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Why? We have our own resident Dr Pov to make the diagnosis



Being an Asthma/Emphysema sufferer myself, I know for a fact that when your Asthma plays up it can lower the oxygen level in your body, which in turn can bring on fatigue.

Also, if she has a thyroid problem (which we know she has), that can also make one extremely tired and lethargic.

She does need a thorough examination and something needs to be done. It's upsetting for her, her family, friends and fans to see such a wonderful, talented woman have these health issues, which is stopping her from fulfilling her true potential
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From what I've read they're gonna make an extremely thorough medical checkup of Petra after the season to prevent all this C**P from hapenning again the next year. It seems that her organism is quite vulnerable (asthma, thyroid issues, etc.) so she should regularly take some meds or special nutritional supplements.

The sheer volume and frequency of her health issues are becoming really worrying. Training hard for two weeks and than fall to an illness that breaks out during her very first match?
She needs better doctors and/or a more expanded medical/nutritional team. And I'm not sure if Petra's current physician and her team are equipped to do this.

We talked about this all the time: She's got #1, multi-grand slam talent, with a 65th ranked players team.

The other thing is; why didn't she have all these problems last year, when she played more matches?

Either someones fibbing, or you're right! They really need to give her a full medical and find out what's going on. And if all this is true: Screw the Fed Cup, and get Petra medically better (where she may have to travel for check ups, if they make the doctor search international).

Nole's Doc sounds good to mean (unless he's Serbian, and her team would feel a Czech Doc is better than a Serbian)? I don't know.
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all i could think in ATP currently is Tsonga who is experiencing a dismal year against top players and constant injury breaks, sounds familiar?
Yeah, and they both have reputations for being very talented, quirky, nice guy/gal underachievers.
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You guys are making me so sad I just can't.
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You guys are making me so sad I just can't.
there's something to cheer for, Petra is not bageled by Errani
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Yeah, and they both have reputations for being very talented, quirky, nice guy/gal underachievers.
My question was,though,do the ATP beat writers call him out or do they write the same weepy crap we get with the women(?) like: "Oh,poor Tsonga,it's not his fault that he has such bad luck..."

For the record,I don't like Petra ANY less than I did before;she'll have to do a lot worse than underachieving on court for me to feel differently
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