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Old May 14th, 2011, 11:16 PM   #31
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

To be honest, I think there should be more strict rules for the commitment to other tournaments. It is really easy to commit to all tournaments and than in the end forget to withdraw in all the other tournaments. I have to say I used it once and almost forgot to withdraw. In this way it is also really hard to see in which tournament you can enter, as the lower ranked tournament will be filled just before the deadline, because people change tournaments!

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Most players in ALT's doing it like that. Otherwise we would barely have ALT's sending, as they would prefer to pull out to make sure they can play this week.
And actually this is a strange sentence, as I think it is wrong. You don't have to have Alts sending, it should be there own risk when they send! Or maybe only the first two or three, so to keep managers from checking all kinds of Alt messages!
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Old May 14th, 2011, 11:24 PM   #32
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

so Joe and Gert in you opinion tennisfan06 did nothing wrong when he committed to Brussels, Strasbourg and Brescia?

so basically low ranked players can commit to every wta tournament?

they will be alt3 in tournament A and ALT2 in tournament b, will send for both and will have a big chance to get in...

in my opinion we should close the Els on Thursday and give the players a 24h deadline to withdraw...
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Old May 14th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #33
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

I think when ALTs send and they didnīt make the draw they should be allowed to play elsewhere.

The problem is that it would kill challengers if we would not let players which didnīt make the draw to play them. I understand that they want to play WTA tournaments and if they didnīt make the draw they are simply going to challengers, nothing wrong with this, you never know how the cut off in WTA will be so why not try to play it? We have already rule that if player is in the draw and doesnīt send, he canīt play other tournaments. Thatīs enough. Rule about who send but doesnīt make the draw canīt play too would be too much IMO. Itīs a game I think there is no need to be that strict. I would agree with Tomekīs idea that we could close the EL in Thursday but still...the players doesnīt know how many LLs will make the draw...1, 5 or 0? Challengers need such players then and I think itīs not wrong to choose a WTA and then goes to challenger if they didnīt make it, because itīs just a game.

Example - There is 10+10 ALTs in both WTA tournaments and challenger donīt have enough players to run. All 20 will send for LL and then they wonīt be allowed to play elsewhere and challenger will be cancelled...I think we shouldnīt be that strict just becuase some people with lower ranking try to play WTA.

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Old May 15th, 2011, 06:29 AM   #34
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

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I think when ALTs send and they didnīt make the draw they should be allowed to play elsewhere.

The problem is that it would kill challengers if we would not let players which didnīt make the draw to play them. I understand that they want to play WTA tournaments and if they didnīt make the draw they are simply going to challengers, nothing wrong with this, you never know how the cut off in WTA will be so why not try to play it? We have already rule that if player is in the draw and doesnīt send, he canīt play other tournaments. Thatīs enough. Rule about who send but doesnīt make the draw canīt play too would be too much IMO. Itīs a game I think there is no need to be that strict. I would agree with Tomekīs idea that we could close the EL in Thursday but still...the players doesnīt know how many LLs will make the draw...1, 5 or 0? Challengers need such players then and I think itīs not wrong to choose a WTA and then goes to challenger if they didnīt make it, because itīs just a game.

Example - There is 10+10 ALTs in both WTA tournaments and challenger donīt have enough players to run. All 20 will send for LL and then they wonīt be allowed to play elsewhere and challenger will be cancelled...I think we shouldnīt be that strict just becuase some people with lower ranking try to play WTA.
But because of these rules, we have so few players in challengers. If we would change the rule, less people would stay for LL position. Now there are 20 peoples staying there, and on the last day the challenger is filled up. It is not wrong when only 2 LL will send, while the other 18 will move to the challenger. But we should give them a reason not to send to each big tournament.
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Old May 15th, 2011, 06:35 AM   #35
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

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There's no (shouldn't be) problem with challengers and wta tournaments, deadline to commit for challengers is anyway after alternate players see if they got in qualies of wta tournament or not.
So it shouldn't be problem for them to withdraw from challenger when they get in qualies. Well for some it is problem, as it happend few times. Manager doesn't have time to check if all players commited to his tournament are in draws of other tournaments.
Happened few times already, it's clearly player's fault for causing confusion.
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Old May 15th, 2011, 08:18 AM   #36
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

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so Joe and Gert in you opinion tennisfan06 did nothing wrong when he committed to Brussels, Strasbourg and Brescia?
You didn't talk about him before. But thats obviously not the way he should do it.
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Old May 15th, 2011, 10:26 AM   #37
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

Question 1:
are players in the draw allowed to withdraw from the tournament and then go on to play another tournament? coz Buitenzorg withdrew from strasbourg while he was scheduled to play doubles qualies today.

Question 2:
Buitenzorg never sent for the tournament, so should i replace their team with an alt or should i just let their opponent win. and what if i have another team who didnt send, should i replace them with an alt instead of Buitenzorg's team (1 alternate scenario)

p.s: this scenario should've happen if only the alt sent, but they didnt. this question is more of a future reference
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Old May 15th, 2011, 10:28 AM   #38
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

Not, if someone is in the draw he canīt play other tournament
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Old May 19th, 2011, 12:35 AM   #39
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

question 1:

Are players that lose in the 1st week (or the Q) of a 2-week tournament (e.g. French Open) allowed to play another tournament in the 2nd week of that 2-week tournament?

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Is it too early to open the thread 8-10 days before the tournament starts?^^

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Old May 19th, 2011, 12:56 AM   #40
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

Of course they can, otherwise we wouldnīt have any people on them

No itīs not, itīs actually a very good time to open it But 8 thatīs Sunday right?
You could open it in Sunday evening or Monday, if you will open it earlier it would be a bit unfair to the other tournament IMO because I can see most of people will join yours when there would be a big difference between opening date of both of them
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wtatourfan sent me a PM. We'll open the threads today or tomorrow.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 06:36 AM   #42
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

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I don't think players should be allowed to commit to every tournament in the week without ever withdrawing.
Managers have enough work anyway, they shouldn't be the ones checking if some players are also in the draws of other tournaments.
It has happened few times already...
true, managers do have a lot of work managing. I should know, done quite enough recently

I still don't see an issue with lower ranked players. No player has any obligations towards a tournament if they are ALT's.

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so Joe and Gert in you opinion tennisfan06 did nothing wrong when he committed to Brussels, Strasbourg and Brescia?

so basically low ranked players can commit to every wta tournament?

they will be alt3 in tournament A and ALT2 in tournament b, will send for both and will have a big chance to get in...

in my opinion we should close the Els on Thursday and give the players a 24h deadline to withdraw...
Yes they can, presuming in their first 2 tournaments they are ALT.
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question 1:

Are players that lose in the 1st week (or the Q) of a 2-week tournament (e.g. French Open) allowed to play another tournament in the 2nd week of that 2-week tournament?

question 2:

Is it too early to open the thread 8-10 days before the tournament starts?^^

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Of course they can, otherwise we wouldnīt have any people on them

No itīs not, itīs actually a very good time to open it But 8 thatīs Sunday right?
You could open it in Sunday evening or Monday, if you will open it earlier it would be a bit unfair to the other tournament IMO because I can see most of people will join yours when there would be a big difference between opening date of both of them
nobodt really cares about that

I usually open my boards 2 weeks in advance to give people time to sign up Everyone knows that players are very lazy signing up and usually committs on the last minute.
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

Can a player play TT whilst currently serving a ban on the forum? e.g. by sending picks via the TTBoard or managers e-mail account.
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Old May 21st, 2011, 03:22 PM   #44
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

how do you count sr's on retirements?
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Old May 21st, 2011, 04:42 PM   #45
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you don't count it at all
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