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Old May 11th, 2011, 11:24 PM   #16
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

I have a question to the TT Board regarding TT Roland Garros:-

You may have seen on the TT RG thread (post #10) that Gert and myself have proposed a different method to construct the singles main draw by allowing the TT players to pick a WTA Main Draw player whose position in the 'real' RG Singles Main Draw will determine their actual position in the TT Singles Main Draw.

This approach has successfully been used a couple of times for TT Grand Slam tournaments run over on MTF, but they have the advantage that their final singles commitment deadline is usually one full week before the start of the main singles draw. I expect the Live RG Singles Main Draw to be conducted around noon on Friday 20th May, so to give all the main draw TT players enough time to chose their player, we would need close the singles entry list say 48 hours before the Live RG draw (e.g. Wednesday 18th May, Noon CET).

This singles commitment deadline would certainly be earlier than for previous TT GS tournaments on TF, so there is a likelihood that some players will forget to commit early and will complain about the earlier than normal singles deadline.

The question is - Is the TT Board happy for us to set this early singles commitment deadline for RG or should we just scrap the idea and resort to a normal random.org draw?

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Edit - If the board are happy to approve the early commitment deadline, then I will be more than happy to send a pm to all current ranked TT players within the next 24 hours, informing them that there will be an earlier than normal singles entry deadline for RG (plus the reason behind it).

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Old May 12th, 2011, 07:43 AM   #17
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

I don't really like this idea, I prefer random.org
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

I support Shaun's proposal.
I think it will make draw much more exciting for most TT players.
And since he would PM all players I don't see why this wouldn't be accepted.
After all managers should decide how they want to run tournaments!
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Old May 12th, 2011, 08:42 AM   #19
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

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I don't really like this idea, I prefer random.org
Ondrej, It will virtually be the same as random.org, except the players which chose a WTA player will be inserted into that players position in the draw. The players who don't chose a player will be inserted into the vacant positions in the draw using random.org.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 01:09 PM   #20
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

Adam once used this method here too. I except that several qualifying rounds will be needed, so deadline must be earlier than last year anyway.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 01:35 PM   #21
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

I have no issues doing this way that draw as Sahun suggested. I think it's nice for a change as then the manager does not get blamed for giving the player a really bad draw
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

i saw this thread last night but didn't have time to reply and i was worried about seeming like a killjoy anyway if i were to disagree with it.

however, if you are ok with PMing every ranked TT player then i don't see how anybody could complain at all. as far as i'm concerned, go for it.
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Yeah, I also think no one should complain if they get a PM.

As we have way more players than last year, we'll need 2 rounds of qualifying and therefor play should start on Friday anyway.
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

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Yeah, I also think no one should complain if they get a PM.

As we have way more players than last year, we'll need 2 rounds of qualifying and therefor play should start on Friday anyway.
There is always an uncertainty regarding how many players we will get for TT RG but based on this years TT AO, we would expect to have two Qualy Rounds. I think that the womens qualifying matches at RG will be on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday (18th to 20th May), so we will probably need to use the Thursday and Friday matches for TT Qualifying.

It seem from the above responses that the TT Board members seem happy for me to send a pm to all the current ranked players to let them know the singles deadline date, so I will do this tonight (including those who have already committed). I will also remind them about the opportunity to pick a WTA player if they make it into the TT main singles draw.

Thanks to the board members for your prompt responses.
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There is always an uncertainty regarding how many players we will get for TT RG but based on this years TT AO, we would expect to have two Qualy Rounds. I think that the womens qualifying matches at RG will be on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday (18th to 20th May), so we will probably need to use the Thursday and Friday matches for TT Qualifying.
Last year TT-Qualifying round was played on Sunday, so you can use Friday + Sunday this year.
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Last year TT-Qualifying round was played on Sunday, so you can use Friday + Sunday this year.
Yes OK, but I just wondered if it would be a problem leaving a one day gap between the two Qualifying rounds? Maybe some players might forget to send picks for the Final Qualifying Round on Sunday.
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

so I have few question about player withdrawals.

can people withdrew after they send picks as alts but didn't get in?

what if they sign up for a different tournament, must they write "I'm out"?


mladen committed to Brescia after the deadline in Brussels was closed and didn't inform me that he is out...

Djezonfly sent his picks as ALT and when he saw that he did not in he withdrew

I mean they knew that they are on the alternates list.


there seriously should be a deadline for withdraws...
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so I have few question about player withdrawals.

can people withdrew after they send picks as alts but didn't get in?

what if they sign up for a different tournament, must they write "I'm out"?


mladen committed to Brescia after the deadline in Brussels was closed and didn't inform me that he is out...

Djezonfly sent his picks as ALT and when he saw that he did not in he withdrew

I mean they knew that they are on the alternates list.


there seriously should be a deadline for withdraws...
ALT's have always had the right to withdraw from any tournament if they don't get in. Even if they send picks as ALT and don't get accepted. This is how it's always been
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can people withdrew after they send picks as alts but didn't get in?
yes.

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what if they sign up for a different tournament, must they write "I'm out"?
Usually there is no need for it. Only when they are aswell on doubles Entry-List (not alt)

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mladen committed to Brescia after the deadline in Brussels was closed and didn't inform me that he is out...
As he only was ALT thats not big problem. He's still on doubles Entrylist and if he gets in there, he obviously can't play Brescia then. But thats his own fault.

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Djezonfly sent his picks as ALT and when he saw that he did not in he withdrew
As Kylger said, that's okay.
Most players in ALT's doing it like that. Otherwise we would barely have ALT's sending, as they would prefer to pull out to make sure they can play this week.
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Re: "Ask the board" thread!

I don't think players should be allowed to commit to every tournament in the week without ever withdrawing.
Managers have enough work anyway, they shouldn't be the ones checking if some players are also in the draws of other tournaments.
It has happened few times already...
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