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View Poll Results: At What Stage in a Match Do Retirements Count for TT?

After 1 point is played 21 46.67%
After 1 set is played 8 17.78%
When the winner leads by a set 1 2.22%
When the winner leads by a set or by 2 games in the final set 15 33.33%
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Old Nov 16th, 2011, 12:36 PM   #1
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TT Rule Change Poll - Retirements (Poll 2)

This poll is to decide WHEN retirements are to be counted in tt. If there is a majority winner, then that rule change option will be adopted. If there is no majority winner, then then the option(s) with the fewest votes will be removed and a new poll will be carried out. (Yes, this is a bit of a pain in the neck, but better to make changes like this democratically and with as much backing from tt players as possible so as to minimise complaints and people feeling the rules are unfair).

this poll has 4 options

1/ retirements count for matches after the first point of a match has been played (ie, ALL retirements count, walkovers do not)

2/ retirements count only after 1 set has been played

3/ retirements count at any point when the winning player is leading by a set (eg 6-3 3-3 counts, 6-3 3-6 4-0 does NOT count)

4/ retirements count at any point when the winning player is leading by a set OR by 2 clear games in the final set (eg 6-3 3-3 counts, 6-3 3-6 4-0 counts, 6-3 3-6 4-3 does NOT count)

Only those with a current tt ranking will have their vote counted.
If you make a mistake with your vote, then post in the thread and your true vote will be counted.
The poll will close on Monday, which should be enough time for everyone who wants to vote to vote.

If anyone doesn't understand anything here, then ask in the thread and someone should be able to answer your questions. Thank you.
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Old Nov 16th, 2011, 11:19 PM   #2
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Re: TT Rule Change Poll - Retirements (Poll 2)

I guess those who voted for Option 2) or 3) should change their votes and decide whether they would prefer 1) or 4) as it seems that it will be decided between those two options only ....
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Old Nov 17th, 2011, 01:59 PM   #3
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I guess those who voted for Option 2) or 3) should change their votes and decide whether they would prefer 1) or 4) as it seems that it will be decided between those two options only ....
yes, i'll PM them if neither of the high scoring 2 options reach 50%, and those people will then vote in the thread.
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Old Nov 17th, 2011, 07:31 PM   #4
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I would dislike option 1 so much Losing a crucial TT match on 1-1 Ret.
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Imagine a 6-3 3-6 4-3 40-15 and ret.
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Old Nov 17th, 2011, 08:18 PM   #6
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Re: TT Rule Change Poll - Retirements (Poll 2)

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Imagine a 6-3 3-6 4-3 40-15 and ret.
Way more unlikely Btw that would not count.
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Old Nov 17th, 2011, 08:23 PM   #7
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I knoe

were was the last time on WTA tour that a player retire at 1-1?
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Just an example.
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were was the last time on WTA tour that a player retire at 1-1?
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Re: TT Rule Change Poll - Retirements (Poll 2)

as it looks as though there will be no clear winner by the time the poll closes tomorrow, i have sent PMs to the 8 people who voted for options 2 and 3 to vote again. their votes will determine whether option 1 or option 4 is successful.
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Re: TT Rule Change Poll - Retirements (Poll 2)

I vote number 1
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Re: TT Rule Change Poll - Retirements (Poll 2)

I actually voted for number 1 not number 2
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I voted option 3 so I change to option 4 (which I actually wanted to vote for at the beginning)
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Re: TT Rule Change Poll - Retirements (Poll 2)

All or nothing.Losing is a losing though having any reason.
so I vote for No.1
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Old Nov 21st, 2011, 11:15 AM   #15
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Re: TT Rule Change Poll - Retirements (Poll 2)

Looks enough for Option 1 to prevail (past 50%).
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