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Old Jun 2nd, 2011, 11:25 AM   #826
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Re: The JJ Forum Random Muttering Thread - Totally Off Topic! episode 4.

"čaj" is not Indian word. It is used in India but the origin is in Sanskrit and has nothing with Turks, except that they use it. Serbs say "čedo", Russians say "čado", as well as "čeljad".

Sanskrit is the language of ancient Aryans, and there are still so many words in use by Slavic, Germanic and Romanic peoples in Europe.

I recently started studying Serbian and Slavic history, and found some totally crazy things about Serbs. For instance, the name of Serbs is about 5000 years old, and is older than the word Slavs. I found these pics on the web... you'll recognise one word that we still use, somewhat modified. This is from the Rig Veda, ancient hymns to god Indra.





Then, when I discovered that the name of our people comes from ancient India, I was so curious to discover even more. And these are the toponyms that I found on the web that show the movement of ancient Serbs, as well as the lands where they lived. According to these maps not all Serbs moved to the Balkans.





Turkey today










This is where Polabian Sorbs live in Germany



Sweden



The name varies from Serbi, Srbi, Sarbi, Sorbi, Sorabi, Sarabi... all the same people according to the locations.

Well, when I found these pics I was like

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Old Jun 2nd, 2011, 12:46 PM   #827
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I'm sorry, I must reply in Serbian.


Ne znam, Sneki. Strašno čudne teorije su se pojavile u poslednje vreme. U želji da se dokaže da smo neki najstariji narod na svetu ili ne znam šta, sad se priča i da nismo Sloveni... Slično pričaju i Hrvati za sebe. Kad pogledaš lingvističke odlike, nema tu neke potpore za sve te teorije koje niču iz betona u poslednje vreme. Sloveni su živeli u nekoj zajednici sa indoiranskim plemenima, Skitima i Sarmatima. Pokupili smo mnoge reči od njih, "Bog" je jedna od njih. Ne znam baš da li ti koreni sa mape dokazuju išta, pošto je S u "serb" nastalo sibilarizacijom (k, g, h dalo c, z, s trlalala). E, da, ono u Poljskoj su neka dva plemena sa nazivom Lužički Srbi, kao postoje gornji i donji, imaju i dva različita jezika gornjolužički i donjolužički. Ti jezici ne liče na naš srpski, već na poljski i češki. Uvek sam želela da upoznam Lužičkog Srbina.

Nebitno, mislim da neki etnolingvsti ili neki drugi pametnjakovići treba da razjasne već jedared tu zbrku i da stave to u udžbenike. Ovako, svako tumači kako stigne. Kupiš neku, kao, knjigu iz istorije, autor je neki navodno cenjeni istoričar, naravno, takvom istoričaru želiš i da veruješ, a on je u stvari neki prolupali fanatik, koji prosipa neke teorije poput onih koje sklapa Srbija da bi dokazao da će Ana osvojiti GS ove godine. Dobro, da ne ispadne da pljujem Srbiju, i ja to često činim kad su Ana i JJ u pitanju.
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Old Jun 2nd, 2011, 01:52 PM   #828
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Re: The JJ Forum Random Muttering Thread - Totally Off Topic! episode 4.

I will also reply in Serbian.

Normalno da Srbi nisu najstariji narod na svetu. Nemam pojma da li takav narod uopšte i postoji. To su samo toponimi, a za neke od njih mi se čini da nemaju veze sa Srbima. Vidiš, te mape su od jednog Čeha, tako da nema nikakve pristrasnosti. A sve te bljuvotine o nebeskom narodu... Ne brini, nisam ja od tih, ja samo tragam za činjenicama. Dakle, čitav slovenski svet je prepun toponima koji u svom korenu imaju ime Srba. Takođe, moja istraživanja su pokazala i da Srbi nisu, kao što se laže, ne znam zašto, došli na Balkan od 7-9 veka. Samo su nadolazile grupe, a Srbi su u Bosni živeli još u 5. veku, o čemu svedoči izveštaj jednog rimskog putopisca špijuna iz 438. godine, koji je obaveštavao cara o stanju u rimskim provincijama. Zna se da su postojale kneževske porodice Svevladovića i Dervanovića. Zna se i da je najveći broj Srba došao ovde upravo iz zapadnoslovenskog sveta, Polablje, Baltik, budući da se tamo slavio Svetovid, koji se i dan danas slavi kod nas, samo u formi Vidovdana. Pošto popovi nisu mogli da ga izbrišu iz narodnog poštovanja, oni su ga prihvatili i modifikovali. Istočnoslovenski narodi nisu slavili Svetovida, ali zato imaju božanstva o kojima mi nikada nismo čuli ništa. Samo pratiš panteon i vidiš odakle ko potiče. Inače, čitala sam i ja neke gluposti po kojima čitava Evropa ispada srpska. Ne treba čitati gluposti, treba samo tragati, što je jako teško i naporno, ali svaka informacija mnogo znači za onoga ko hoće da istražuje, a ja to radim.

Da li si čitala od monaha Nestora Povest vremenih let? E, jasno čovek piše da su Sloveni živeli na Balkanu koji se onda, normalno, nije zvao Balkan. Pošto je oko 300 godina pne došlo do najezde Kelta, gomila Slovena se preselila na Baltik. I kada su ih pitali šta se dogodilo, oni su rekli da su ih oterali Vlasi. Ko su Vlasi? Najverovatnije su mislili na Kelte pošto su oni sve ljude koji nisu govorili slovenskim dijalektom zvali Vlasima. Takođe, etnos ili narod koji se zove Iliri uopšte nikada nije ni postojao. Postojala je samo teritorija koja se zvala Ilirikum u vreme Rimskog carstva, i njene su stanovnike zvali Ilirima zbog toga. To su bila različita plemena koja su povremeno ratovala među sobom. Poznato je da Sloveni nisu nikada ratovali među sobom pre primanja hrišćanstva.

Što se tiče jezika polapskih Srba, normalno da ne mogu govoriti kao i mi kad smo razdvojeni već 1600 godina, ali je gramatika slična, ako ne i ista. A pitanje je da li su i živeli u istoj oblasti, pošto se od oblasti do oblasti razlikuju akcenti itd. Mogu ti ispisati knjigu stvari ovde, potpuno nepristrasno. Mene zanima istina, ali mislim da nikada neću doći do nje jer ima jako mnogo nepoznanica koje je bez adekvatnih podataka potpuno nemoguće rasvetliti. A podataka nema...

Odoh da ne smaram više.

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Old Jun 2nd, 2011, 02:21 PM   #829
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Haha, opusti se. Mislim da bi se do odgovora najlakše došlo kad bi neki nepristrasni naučnik pokušao da objasni sve. Ovde se malo ko bavi toponimima, tj. malo ko pokušava da stvarno objasni nešto... Imaju ljudi pametnija posla. Tipa: proučavaš na + lokativ u nekom jevanđelju... Nema šta, to su krucijalna istraživanja. Ali, kapiram ih, za ono treba imati petlju, a i dosta znanja. Takve priče su uvek kontroverzne. Jbg, nemaš pisanih spomenika, pa ti je onda teško bilo šta da tvrdiš. Navodno, koren od našeg etnonima je iranski. Teško je sad bilo šta od toga dokazati.



And don't mention JJ. I'm sick of RG, but totally sick.
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I saw the documentary and I loved it. But, as I said, I'm very emotional.
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^ OMG ...the video ends when it becomes inetersting
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Disgusting. I really hope that they stopped recording in order to help that man.
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I am finally in Belgrade now. Nice city, but I just spent 1200 DIN for a dinner
I ate in a restaurant called Little Bay on Dositejeva, the restaurant is designed like an opera house with candle and some people playing music

I should have just got some food in Toma instead.

Still have no idea where the Giant JJ billboard is
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^ Search for die-hard JJ`s fans from Belgrade here and meat them.
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I walked around Central Belgrade looking for any billboard of Djokovic/Ivanovic/Jankovic and all I got is a billboard of Woz-fucking-niacki at slavija sq.
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I walked around Central Belgrade looking for any billboard of Djokovic/Ivanovic/Jankovic and all I got is a billboard of Woz-fucking-niacki at slavija sq.
Thank you very much.
At least when I was there visiting our very own Alex, Zoja and Ma - I actually saw JJ on the side of a building...

If I'd gone all the way and seen Caro, I may have eaten my feet in disgust!
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