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View Poll Results: Better player- Seles or Graf

Seles 78 38.81%
Graf 123 61.19%
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 06:36 PM   #1
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Better player- Graf or Seles

Who do you consider a better player- Seles or Graf. Considering about 54% voted for Seles as a top 5 player all time I am going to guess Seles wins this poll.
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #2
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

Seles OF COURSE !!
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 06:48 PM   #3
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

The grunt.
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 06:55 PM   #4
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

Graf, no contest.
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

H2H says it all
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 07:07 PM   #6
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

To summarize years of threads on this topic: Graf tops Seles when discussing career stats; Graf also tops Seles when comparing tour-dominating seasons (88-89 and 95-96 versus 91-92); and womano-a-womano, Graf held her own -- and then some -- against what many consider to be peak Seles.

Yes, one of the great tragedies in sports occurred in April '93, but one can't do anything with Asterisks, What Ifs and Could Have Beens.

So any reasoning and knowledgeable enthusiast of the game would have to vote Graf.
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 08:09 PM   #7
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

Graf by a huge margin. You are comparing the greatest women player ever to the 10th or 11th greatest ever. Stupid poll.
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 08:11 PM   #8
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

Graf.
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 08:12 PM   #9
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

Seles
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

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Considering about 54% voted for Seles as a top 5 player all time I am going to guess Seles wins this poll.
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 08:32 PM   #11
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

Graf, of course.

There was a period in the prime of Graf's career when Seles was better in the slams. But you can't take that period and extrapolate to a 'might have been'. Martina Hingis won five slams before her 20th birthday. And none afterward. Had she suffered some tragedy in June 1999, what might we have said about what might have been?

What would Maureen Connolly have accomplished without her tragedy? What would Althea Gibson have accomplished if she'd been allowed to play all the slams in the prime of her career? What would Evonne Goolagong have accomplished were she not bucking racism in Australia?
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

Is this seriously a question? Graf, no contest. I'm not trying to knock Seles since she was an amazing champion for 92-93, but her problem coming back was all mental and she couldn't get over it and by the time she did better players had caught up to her.
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

Monica has dominant LOSING head to heads against many players with less slams- Venus, Hingis, and Davenport.
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Old Oct 17th, 2010, 08:39 PM   #14
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Re: Better player- Graf or Seles

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Who do you consider a better player- Seles or Graf. Considering about 54% voted for Seles as a top 5 player all time I am going to guess Seles wins this poll.
Yeah and most of those would probably have put Graf in the top 2.

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Graf, of course.

There was a period in the prime of Graf's career when Seles was better in the slams. But you can't take that period and extrapolate to a 'might have been'. Martina Hingis won five slams before her 20th birthday. And none afterward. Had she suffered some tragedy in June 1999, what might we have said about what might have been?
Agreed, although there is a difference. Hingis was no longer dominant, Seles still was (very much).
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