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Old Nov 25th, 2010, 04:39 AM   #16
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Re: FED Cup 2011, discussion, commitments etc.

Just noticed this thread. Great idea

I will definitely play. 1st choice would be Holland, but I might be the only one...
Otherwise I will team up and play for another country.
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Old Nov 26th, 2010, 03:10 PM   #17
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Re: FED Cup 2011, discussion, commitments etc.

Great Britain
if not... Spain
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Old Nov 26th, 2010, 04:25 PM   #18
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Re: FED Cup 2011, discussion, commitments etc.

List of countries starting to form, officially three so far:

Great Britain (or Spain)
Netherlands
Croatia

Keep coming people!
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Old Nov 26th, 2010, 04:49 PM   #19
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Estonia if possible.


But maybe we should do it in regions? E.g. West Europe, South Europe etc, because we probably wouldn't have enough players for individual countries.
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Old Nov 26th, 2010, 04:58 PM   #20
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^^ Well, we probably won't have many countries, but I think even having several could be enough to make it fun (like seven or eight). Anyway, if we'll divide points by the number of players, it doesn't even matter if there's just one player for a certain country.

P. S. Of course you can sign-up for Estonia, or any other country for that matter. Later on, we'll see how many players every country has and think about how to arrange teams.
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I'd like to play for France
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Mexico
It has to be a country of World Group?
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Old Nov 28th, 2010, 06:39 AM   #23
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It has to be a country of World Group?
No, absolutely not, you can pick which ever country you want.
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I'll form the first official team!

The team from Great Britain has 2 official members! Britannica shall rule the waves once again.


So. random question...I'm confused as to how this would work, would we take say a tournament like Brisbane and create individual and team scoring? That could be an idea, I'd be willing to run the team portion for a couple of tournaments. We could have a running ranking system to go alongside the individual rankings?
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I would like to play for the United States.
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Old Nov 28th, 2010, 02:39 PM   #26
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I'll form the first official team!

The team from Great Britain has 2 official members! Britannica shall rule the waves once again.


So. random question...I'm confused as to how this would work, would we take say a tournament like Brisbane and create individual and team scoring? That could be an idea, I'd be willing to run the team portion for a couple of tournaments. We could have a running ranking system to go alongside the individual rankings?
The idea here is to play FED Cup i.e. to tip individual matches of FED Cup ties (probably World Group 1 and 2). It doesen't really have much (in fact, nothing at all) with tournaments played during the season, for FC, only the matches played during FC weekends would count. Of course, there are a lot of details still left to be worked upon, but we have more than enough time so now we're focussed on signing-up and forming teams.

But if there is interest in year-long team or doubles game in tipping, I don't have anything against it. It's just that we've already tried doubles in tipping a few seasons ago and the idea preety much failed misserably. Back then, we didn't really work out the details and we didn't even know in which tournaments we'll play doubles, so it was quite random and weird. Also, the idea of teams and how they'll be scored wasn't really thought through enough, so the rankings system was boring and we didn't even finish one season. However, if you're into this idea of creating a doubles competition in tipping, feel free to start it out, but it would be best if you'd do it in a different thread, cause this one is really created for FED Cup.

BTW, we're already up on six countries: Great Britain, Netherlands, Croatia, Estonia, France and the United States
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Old Nov 28th, 2010, 04:08 PM   #27
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Re: FED Cup 2011, discussion, commitments etc.

So the way I envision such a Fed Cup Tournament being drawn up is simply by round, which does put limits on the number of teams that can play.

Lets say for example that this is a mock tournament at say, the Australian Open, and only 8 teams sign up.

The countries make picks for R128, and R 64
R128, r 64

1. Great Britain
Monaco

4. France
5. Spain

6. Algeria
3. Denmark

2. Croatia
7. United States

Each team would consist of 3-6 players (otherwise…it may be too similar to tennis tipping….the issue is simply that if we want to maintain tipping and keep the people coming back…I think we would have to create a system where the people can post picks for all rounds.

So in this hypothetical tournament, lets say that the following results occur

Great Britain def Monaco
Spain def France
Algeria STUNS Denmark
Croatia def United States

The next round would be simply be for R32 and r16

GBR v Spain
Algeria v Croatia

And the Outbracket of

Monaco v France
United States v Denmark

And lets say the following occurs.
GBR def Spain
Croatia def Algeria
Monaco def France
Denmark def United States

For the final 2 rounds of the tournament it would be purely for placement.

Battle Royale for Gold: Great Britain vs Croatia

Bronze Medal Game: Spain vs Algeria

5th Place Playoff: Monaco vs Denmark

Battle to not finish last: France vs United States


And lets say that the final standings are as follows,
1. Great Britain
2. Croatia
3. Algeria
4. Spain
5. Denmark
6. Monaco
7. France
8. United States.

The countries would be awarded points according to where they ended up in the final rankings at the end of a tournament. The issue I think is that is this really tipping if we do it with a draw? It may simply be easier to have all the countries compete in one big standings and have everyone post picks for each round, and have the final point total be the standings as we do for individuals.

I think that maybe the score should consist of an AVERAGE of all of the people on a team. Or is that too complicated? It just would mean that every pick counts. So lets create an example of this system.

Lets say 10 countries enter in Brisbane.
1. Great Britain (3 people)
2. Croatia (5 people)
3. Serbia (2)
4. Estonia (3)
5. Spain (2)
6. France (2)
7. Montenegro (4)
8. Kosovo (2)
9. Lesotho (2)
10. Swaziland (2)

Each country would be represented by say, at least 2 players, but in order to make it fair to all, we should average all the players scores, so that it evens it out for the countries with fewer people. So lets just say for each week, people can specify a country to represent along with their individual efforts. Would that work?

I'd be willing to try running it for the first tournament.

Thoughts on this massive post?
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Old Nov 28th, 2010, 05:31 PM   #28
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However, if you're into this idea of creating a doubles competition in tipping, feel free to start it out, but it would be best if you'd do it in a different thread, cause this one is really created for FED Cup.
That you really should've done it in another thread

Seriously though, it can all be done in a number of ways so we'll have to do what most consideres best in the end, like we always do (we can include polls etc. in the process). I'd like it to be as close to tipping as possible, cause if it's not it becomes a totally different game...which is also fine, but then it should be called differently as well. I'd personally also prefer it as a doubles competition, instead of a team one, cause FED Cup is already a team competition with (potentially) many players for each country, so it could be too similar of a format to FC. Anyway, please create another thread in this Games->tipping section of the forum and we'll discuss it all there
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Old Nov 29th, 2010, 03:33 PM   #29
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heh. I'm crazy. I'll start one. sure why not.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2010, 09:53 PM   #30
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I will play for Serbia or Italy
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