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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
"Future" reflection  . More like, current reflection.
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Sep 15th, 2010, 11:36 AM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
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Well, we aren't having 16 different grand slam winners in a row right now 
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Sep 15th, 2010, 12:16 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
The slam winners were veterans this year. Kim is the youngest, and she was around 10 years ago.
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Sep 15th, 2010, 12:21 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
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And let's not forget, Hingis won junior Roland Garros aged 12!!!
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you can compete on ITF Juniors Circuit (U18 level) until you are 13 now.
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What does it tell us about the future of women tennis? Does it reflect the senior grand slam results in the future?
Last 16 junior grand slam champions:
0. US Open 2006 - Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova (Russia)
1. Australian Open 2007 - Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova (Russia)
2. French Open 2007 - Alize Cornet (France)
3. Wimbledon 2007 - Urszula Radwańska (Poland)
4. US Open 2007 - Kristína Kučová (Slovakia)
5. Australian Open 2008 - Arantxa Rus (Netherlands)
6. French Open 2008 - Simona Halep (Romania)
7. Wimbledon 2008 - Laura Robson (United Kingdom)
8. US Open 2008 - Coco Vandeweghe (USA)
9. Australian Open 2009 - Ksenia Pervak (Russia)
10. French Open 2009 - Kristina Mladenovic (France)
11. Wimbledon 2009 - Noppawan Lertcheewakarn (Thailand)
12. US Open 2009 - Heather Watson (United Kingdom)
13. Australian Open 2010 - Karolina Pliskova (Czech Republic)
14. French Open 2010 - Elina Svitolina (Ukraine)
15. Wimbledon 2010 - Kristyna Pliskova (Czech Republic)
16. US Open 2010 - Daria Gavrilova (Russia)
Pavlyuchenkova was the last one to win more than one. None of the juniors have been able to dominate since. I checked and found out that this streak has never been this long in the past. It has been going on for 4 successive years now. |
not very suprising. most tend to finish juniors after winning a slam unless they are like 14/15. Junior's change alot every year its not like WTA where you play same players nearly all time.
Once juniors can get into slam field either Q/MD they will give up juniors.
Pliskova twins did a complete weirdo plan of attack, played juniors at 14, then didnt play until this yr.
dunno what Robson has been doing playing juniors this yr but she's not even playing/trying 50%.
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Sep 15th, 2010, 12:52 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
isn't this, like, the regular state of affairs?
junior grand slam results don't say much, especially if you look at just winners. most girls who win a junior grand slam do so in their last year as juniors and don't ave time to repeat the success. the age of the winner also matters because winning the junior grand slam at 17 isn't saying much about your potential.
plus when was the last time that a girl who won a gs as junior also won it as a pro? on the other hand many girls who lost in the final of a junior gs became gs champions later. i can think of a few - ana, kim, sharapova.
girls with potential to win slams switch to the wta tour early.
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Sep 15th, 2010, 01:06 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
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Generation Wack |
what's the essence of the Wack generation? How do they differ from the Sucks? 
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Sep 15th, 2010, 01:16 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
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isn't this, like, the regular state of affairs?
junior grand slam results don't say much, especially if you look at just winners. most girls who win a junior grand slam do so in their last year as juniors and don't ave time to repeat the success. the age of the winner also matters because winning the junior grand slam at 17 isn't saying much about your potential.
plus when was the last time that a girl who won a gs as junior also won it as a pro? on the other hand many girls who lost in the final of a junior gs became gs champions later. i can think of a few - ana, kim, sharapova.
girls with potential to win slams switch to the wta tour early.
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http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=381295
by this list, the last one to win a GS both in juniors and pros was Henin 
Kuznetsova also belongs to that list with Ivanovic, Clijsters and Sharapova.
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Sep 15th, 2010, 02:11 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
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what's the essence of the Wack generation?
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Their essence is sucking harder than Generation Suck.
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How do they differ from the Sucks? |
See above.
Generation Suck = classes of 1988-1990
Generation Wack = classes of 1991-1992
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Sep 15th, 2010, 02:13 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
^ But Robson is 1994 |
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Sep 15th, 2010, 02:14 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
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^ But Robson is 1994 |
Robson = Generation SLUT
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Sep 15th, 2010, 02:16 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
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Robson = Generation SLUT
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Sep 15th, 2010, 03:41 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
Age when they won this GS:
Pavlyuchenkova (15)
Cornet (17)
Radwańska (16)
Kučová (17)
Rus (17)
Halep (15)
Robson (14)
Vandeweghe (16)
Pervak (17)
Mladenovic (16)
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Watson (17)
Karolina Pliskova (17)
Svitolina (15)
Kristyna Pliskova (18)
Gavrilova (16)
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Sep 15th, 2010, 07:02 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
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Age when they won this GS:
Pavlyuchenkova (15)
Cornet (17)
Radwańska (16)
Kučová (17)
Rus (17)
Halep (15)
Robson (14)
Vandeweghe (16)
Pervak (17)
Mladenovic (16)
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Watson (17)
Karolina Pliskova (17)
Svitolina (15)
Kristyna Pliskova (18)
Gavrilova (16)
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Interesting. It seems that the 14 and 15 yr old winners have the bigger upside. Probably because winning at 15 against 18 yr olds that should be better simulates being the 18 yr old that has to make a living beating the 28 yr old tour veteran.
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Sep 15th, 2010, 07:10 PM
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Re: 16 successive junior slams in a row won by different girls: WTA's future reflecti
I actually do anticipate a surge in one-slam wonders, and I also predict that FO will no longer be the primary source of same.
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Sep 15th, 2010, 07:11 PM
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