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Old Sep 22nd, 2013, 03:53 PM   #1
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Islamist violence in Africa

NAIROBI (Reuters) - Islamist militants were holed up with hostages on Sunday at a shopping mall in Nairobi, where at least 59 people have been killed in an attack by the al Shabaab group that opposes Kenya's participation in a peacekeeping mission in neighboring Somalia.

Foreigners, including three Britons and two diplomats - one from Canada and another from Ghana - were killed in Saturday's attack at the upmarket mall, claimed by Somali group al Shabaab.

Shortly after the shots were fired, troops in camouflage ran crouching below a restaurant terrace along the front of the building that had been buzzing with customers when assailants charged in. One witness said they first told Muslims to leave.

For hours after the brazen attack, the dead were strewn around tables of unfinished meals. At one burger restaurant, a man and woman lay in a final embrace, before their bodies were removed. Pop music was left playing.

The assault was the biggest single attack in Kenya since al Qaeda's East Africa cell bombed the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi in 1998, killing more than 200 people. In 2002, the same militant cell attacked an Israeli-owned hotel on the coast and tried to shoot down an Israeli jet in a coordinated strike.

Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku told reporters the death toll had risen to 59, and that security forces were doing everything they could to rescue hostages still inside the mall.

He added that 175 people had been taken to hospital after an assault that could prove a costly setback for east Africa's biggest economy, which relies heavily on tourism revenues.

The dead in Saturday's assault included children, and the wounded ranged in age from 2 to 78. Many victims were at a cookery competition when assailants opened fire on them, witnesses said. More than 1,000 people were evacuated.

The focus of attention on Sunday was on the mall's branch of Nakumatt supermarket, one of Kenya's biggest chains.

Giving her name as Cecilia, she told Reuters by telephone later that she had seen three men who looked like they were of Arab extraction judging by their skin color.

Al Shabaab, which is battling Kenyan and other African peacekeepers in Somalia, had repeatedly threatened attacks in Kenya if Nairobi did not pull its troops out of their country.

The group appeared to taunt the security forces, saying on its official Twitter handle @HSM_Press that there would be no negotiations whatsoever with Kenyan officials over the standoff.

"10 hours have passed and the Mujahideen are still strong inside #Westgate Mall and still holding their ground. All praise is due to Allah!", the group said late on Saturday, although its account on Twitter was suspended on Sunday morning.

Al Shabaab's last big attack outside Somalia was a twin assault in nearby Uganda, targeting people watching the World Cup final on television in Kampala in 2010, killing 77 people.
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Old Sep 22nd, 2013, 04:33 PM   #2
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Yet west continues on its course of attacking Shii Muslims, while turning blind eye on whatever Sunni do.
When Sunnis use chemical weapons, it's cool, but when we suspect shii in that, we give no benefit of the doubt. When sunnis develop nuclear weapons, its cool, but when Shii work with nuclear energy, we are zero toelrance.
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Re: Islamist gunmen holed up with hostages in Kenya siege, 59 dead

I don't think 99% of the West could tell the difference between the Sunnis and Shiites. I think it has something to do with the political positions taken, not their religion.
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I don't think 99% of the West could tell the difference between the Sunnis and Shiites. I think it has something to do with the political positions taken, not their religion.
More likely, something to do with our cordial friendship with some petrofaschist Sunni regimes, whom we never call that word..
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Re: Islamist gunmen holed up with hostages in Kenya siege, 59 dead

When does a shopping mall become a war zone? We've taken hatred, intolerance and the courage of conviction to an extreme!!!
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Terrible 68 dead now
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Horrific feel bad for normal, peaceful islamists, they get a terrible rap because of these people
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Re: Islamist gunmen holed up with hostages in Kenya siege, 59 dead

on another note, a suicide bomber self-exploded and killed about 100 people in a church in peshawar pakistan today morning when the sunday prayers were in full swing......
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on another note, a suicide bomber self-exploded and killed about 100 people in a church in peshawar pakistan today morning when the sunday prayers were in full swing......
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Yet west continues on its course of attacking Shii Muslims, while turning blind eye on whatever Sunni do.
When Sunnis use chemical weapons, it's cool, but when we suspect shii in that, we give no benefit of the doubt. When sunnis develop nuclear weapons, its cool, but when Shii work with nuclear energy, we are zero toelrance.
Al-Qaeda, Taliban and Saddam Hussein are Sunni and we all know what the west did to them. I don't think it's a matter of Sunni or Shia to the west. It's all about preventing the growth of extremism.
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Al-Qaeda, Taliban and Saddam Hussein are Sunni and we all know what the west did to them. I don't think it's a matter of Sunni or Shia to the west. It's all about preventing the growth of extremism.
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68 ppl killed for nothing...

I always wonder when this appalling disregard for human life started?
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The Religion of Peace™ has reached Kenya!

Condolences to the victims. Nowhere in the world is safe from Islam.
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Don't know if all of you are aware or not but Nelson Mandela was also called a terrorist and met with the same type of disdain while fighting for the rights of his people while those christians were murdering, raping, torturing, enslaving black Africans. Christian countries not only supported these oppressors but used our technology to help apprehend Mandela and created instruments and means to torture not only black men and women but also their children. These acts of cruelty weren't done by Muslims but by Christians? A person's lack of compassion has nothing to do with a particular religion but what's in a persons heart. There are plenty of examples of what our Christian country is currently doing to innocent Muslims that many of us don't agree with but it's our government doing this not because of our religion.
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