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Old Aug 10th, 2010, 03:43 PM   #16
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Re: 1890 results

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I notice that you're using MX, MXDF and, in later threads, MD (I presume that's for mixed doubles), etc. In my original threads, which you "requisitioned" and are now using (to be fair to me, at least 90% of these early years are possible in their new form because I looked up the results in the original sources), I used the following abbreviations for the mixed doubles event:

XDSF: mixed doubles semi-final
XDF: mixed doubles final
XDACF: mixed doubles All-Comers' final
XDCR: mixed double Challenge Round

As with other abbreviations, I used them consistently.
I applaud your consistency. MX is the abbreviation I'm using for mixed finals, as for the most part we only have finals. Anything past the final is listed out as a draw:

Example:

Mixed Doubles

QF quarterfinals

SF Semifinals

FI final

I'll try to be more consistent.

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In my original threads I didn't indicate an Irish player's nationality when he or she played in England, Scotland or Wales because Ireland was under British rule during the period in question. I notice you're now dropping in "Ire" and "Ireland" (in brackets) after certain Irish players' names when they are playing outside of Ireland but still within the British Isles
India was under British rule too up to 1948, yet I've seen players listed as "India" in pre-1948 draws. Ditto for Ireland. I'm not saying your interpretation is incorrect, but there is leeway here. John Barrett's book of Wimbledon draws notes Irish players before 1919.


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Although "GeeTee" (Graham) contributed a lot of the early Australian results, up to 1915 - I know he's gone beyond the First World War as well - he left out a lot of the women's doubles and mixed doubles results and/or only indicated the winner. I went back to the original sources (Australian newspapers of the period) and added in a lot of results Graham didn't have back when he first submitted the results he found.
Once I give credit I won't take it away Mark. GeeTee contributed those results much earlier. We all buiild on the work of others. I feel he deserves his credit, as do you.

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I also found most of the singles, doubles and mixed results from the New Zealand Championships. I didn't go beyond 1909 where these Australasian results are concerned because that was the point at which I realized what you were doing with the many results I originally found and included in my threads.
Of course this is your choice. It was (and still is) your choice that you deleted your own threads. I had no real beef with your format. The goal is that we have complete draws when possible though, and you didn't seem willing to compromise on this point.

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Mabel Shaw's sister was called Phenie, so Mabel Shaw/Miss Shaw should be Mabel Shaw/Phenie Shaw.
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Thanks, I added this.

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The threads look messy/messier when you use dashes of varying lengths in them to separate sections or tournaments, like this:

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Good point. I formatted the dots for this thread and will try to be more consistent in future.

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Old Nov 25th, 2010, 06:01 PM   #17
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Re: 1890 results

September 8-9, Pacific Coast Championships, San Rafael, California, USA (Hard)

FI: Maud Wilkinson d. Miss Barker 6-2, 6-3*

* This was the inaugural women's singles event at the Pacific Coast Championships.
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Old Nov 27th, 2010, 01:59 PM   #18
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Re: 1890 results

PCC added above. Thanks
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Old Nov 3rd, 2011, 06:19 AM   #19
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Re: 1890 results

lol - I can't remember reading this thread before

Here's a few more details:

10-14 May 1890 - NSW Championships

SF Zilla Scott d Eliza Fitzgerald 61 61
SF Ellen Blaxland d Edith Fox 63 61

FI Scott d Blaxland 62 57 64

CR Mayne d Scott 86 61

DOUBLES
SF Fitzgerald/Blaxland d J Blaxland/NM Blaxland 62 63
SF Scott/Dransfield d Dora Garnsey/Mrs Lindon 62 61

FI Scott/Dransfield d Fitzgerald/Blaxland 46 61 62

CR Mayne/Shaw d Scott/Dransfield 64 75

MIXED
R1 Mayne/Dudley Webb d Mabel Shaw/Percy Colquhoun 61 16 62

SF Mayne/Webb d E Blaxland/E Fitzgerald 86 62
SF Florence Batt/Harold S Fox d Dransfield/JR Baker 57 62 64

FI Mayne/Webb d Batt/Fox

CR Mayne/Webb d Robert Fitzgerald/Eliza Fitzgerald 64 62

Theodora K 'Dora' GARNSEY (born 1871) married Frank GADEN in 1898

10-18 November - Victorian Championships - Melbourne

R1 Phenie Shaw d E Raleigh 60 60
R1 Raleigh bye
R1 Mackenzie bye
R1 Mabel Shaw bye

SF Shaw d Shaw 61 61
SF Mackenzie d Raleigh 46 63 64

FI Shaw d Mackenzie 61 64

DOUBLES
Mabel Shaw/Phenie Shaw d CR Peach/CH Peach 61 62
Raleigh/Raleigh bye
Gordon/Langton bye
E Mackenzie/A Chenery bye

SF Mackenzie/Chenery d Gordon/Langton 60 62
SF Shaw/Shaw d Raleigh/Raleigh 60 62

FI Mackenzie/Chenery d Shaw/Shaw 63 65

MIXED
E Raleigh/Alex Chomley d Miss Wight/R Greene 63 75
Nellie A'Becket/HJ De Little d Raleigh/A Raleigh 60 62
E Mackenzie/Charles Cropper d Miss Newell/Lowes 63 62
Shaw/Norman Bayles d Miss Gordon/Scott 61 75

SF Mackenzie/Cropper d Shaw/Bayles 97 63
SF Raleigh/Chomley d A'Beckett/De Little 62 62

FI Raleigh/Chomley d Mackenzie/Cropper 63 79 62

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Old Dec 10th, 2011, 02:32 PM   #20
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Re: 1890 results

Graham's Australian additions above are now integrated into the main results
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Re: 1890 results

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early April, British Covered Courts Championships, Queen’s Club, London, England (Indoors on wood)

FI: May Jacks d. Maud Shackle 6-0 6-1

This was the inaugural women’s singles event at this tournament. A Challenge Cup was on offer for a number years in the women’s singles event.
According to Lance Tingay's "The Guinness book of tennis" , until 1894 included the venue was the Hyde Park Club
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Old Apr 12th, 2012, 09:03 PM   #22
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Re: 1890 results

BCC venue changed
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Old May 14th, 2012, 09:42 AM   #23
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Re: 1890 results

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began June 23, New Jersey Championships, Orange, New Jersey, USA (Grass)

Venue: Orange Lawn LTC

CR: Mabel Cahill (IRL) d. Gertrude Williams (holder) default

MX: R.R. Perkins/Mabel Cahill (IRL) d. S.M. Colegate/May Colegate 6-2 6-0
FI: Mabel Cahill (IRL) d. Mrs Fellowes-Morgan 6-3 6-1

MX: R.R. Perkins/Mabel Cahill (IRL) d. S.M. Colgate/May Colby 6-2 6-0
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Re: 1890 results

New Jersey corrections and additions made, thanks Jimbo
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Re: 1890 results

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August, East of England Championships, Felixstowe

FI: Mrs A. Thompson d. Winifred Kersey 6-3 6-4
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Re: 1890 results

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Re: 1890 results

June 10-14, Whitehouse, Edinburgh, Scotland

CR: Lottie Paterson (holder) d. Jane Corder 6-0, 8-6
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DF: Miss Meikle/Lottie Paterson d. E. Ferguson/Jane Meikle 3-6, 7-5, 7-5
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XDF: E.B. Fuller/Lottie Paterson d. Stanley Riseley/Miss Meikle 6-1, 6-2
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Re: 1890 results

July 31-August 4, Sheffield and Hallamshire, South Yorkshire, England (Grass)

FI: Beatrice Wood d. M. Crossley 6-4, 6-2
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Re: 1890 results

July 9-12, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England (Grass)

FI: Miss Rome d. M. Evans 6-2, 6-2
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Re: 1890 results

August 18-23, Torquay, Devon, England (Grass)

FI: Miss Wolfe d. Miss Fisher 7-5, 6-4
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