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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 09:13 AM   #151
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

I don't really understand why serve and volley has become so unpopular in Australia in the last 10 years. When I was a junior it was all about Cash, Stoltenberg, Woodbridge, Rafter, etc. so that's how most of us wanted to play.

It's still not a bad tactic, due to the prevalence of fast carpet courts. Yet everybody grows up playing exactly how you describe - the looping forehand, flat backhand and big serve. Very confusing.
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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 11:06 AM   #152
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

I play like a mix XDD

Forehand: Date
Backhand: Maria José Martínez
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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 11:07 AM   #153
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

how can you serve like Sharapova, but have a Radwanska style of play?
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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 11:21 AM   #154
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

I mean that.
Style in general: fighting, changing shots usually, some drops..
And is compatible with a Sharapova´s serve
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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 12:39 PM   #155
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I don't really understand why serve and volley has become so unpopular in Australia in the last 10 years. When I was a junior it was all about Cash, Stoltenberg, Woodbridge, Rafter, etc. so that's how most of us wanted to play.

It's still not a bad tactic, due to the prevalence of fast carpet courts. Yet everybody grows up playing exactly how you describe - the looping forehand, flat backhand and big serve. Very confusing.
For me, growing up in Europe i played baseline but my style of shots changed rather than play when moving to Aus. One coach tried to make me play serve volley but I was not the most comfortable. I friend of mine in France plays serve volley but he has a massive serve, is six foot something and has reflexes like a cat. The same coach made him play it and he adapted to it immediately. Maybe it has something to do with the introduction of the sport where we first begin to play rallies from the baseline rather than vollying rallies?
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Old Aug 22nd, 2011, 12:44 AM   #156
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

My game has changed to a Stosur like game. In otherwords, I only have a forehand and a serve. My backhand goes AWOL all the time, although last time I played it was pretty sweet, but it's not consistent at all.
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

Ernests Gulbis.
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Old Aug 29th, 2011, 12:58 PM   #158
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

Lleyton Hewitt. My forehand is different, a bit like Nadal and Djokovic.
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Old Sep 7th, 2011, 04:03 AM   #159
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

Still rocking the Ivanovic style of play: forehand, serve (ball toss isn't wonky though), but my backhand is more consistent. I do swing though, however, like Zvonareva a bit.
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Old Sep 7th, 2011, 06:30 AM   #160
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

I don't really try and imitate or compare with anyone (my coach is very against it as well). I personally from experience feel that its a bad habit, as you try and "adapt to someone else's game" rather than what you are capable of, and you yourself can provide. I have been playing since I was 7, so changing my game is a big no-no. I would say though my backhand (open-stance, which again my coach doesn't particularly agree with..because you have to read the ball off your opponents racket to get back early and follow through with the backhand..its more of a vaidisova/venus open stance backhand..very effective i find, however lately I have been taking a slightly shorter swing, which assists me n absorbing my opponents power). My serve I hit with a western grip, which is awkward for some but I have been brought up like that, so switching my hand slightly in my service motion feels odd now. My forehand is probably my weapon, but my backhand is more consistent (if that makes sense). I miss alot more on more forehand side, rather than my backhand side (even though i hit both shots hard and flat..not having much clearance over the net can cost me at times). which means probably overall its similar to Cibulkova's (not exact, but i wouldn't want it to be anyway).
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Old Sep 7th, 2011, 07:06 AM   #161
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Re: Which pro does your game compare most to?

Jelena Jankovic. Head case, crappy serve, and all. Although I feel like my forehand is a little more of a weapon than my backhand, but i LOVE to go dtl with my backhand. When playing a stronger opponent i will play more defense, when playing a weaker opponent, I play more offense and go for my shots.
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Old Sep 7th, 2011, 07:17 AM   #162
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I don't really try and imitate or compare with anyone (my coach is very against it as well). I personally from experience feel that its a bad habit, as you try and "adapt to someone else's game" rather than what you are capable of, and you yourself can provide. I have been playing since I was 7, so changing my game is a big no-no.
That's a pretty idealistic way to view things. Everyone's personal style comes from somewhere else - whether it's from doing stuff the way your coach teaches you, trying to emulate a certain player or players, or a combination of both. I'm sure for most people it's a combination... I mean, you can't tell me as a kid that you didn't have favourite players and wanted to play like them.

I started playing at a similar age in the early-to-mid 90s. My heroes were Edberg, Woodbridge, and later Rafter. I always wanted to play like them and I took elements from all their games to try and build mine. I wasn't an especially tall guy so I copied a lot of Woodbridge's 'flatball' style, particularly with his serve, to get power. I obviously drooled over Edberg's backhand and volleys, so tried to incorporate some of his mechanics into mine. Later, when I was getting better and developing a kick serve, Rafter's was the obvious model.

I think it's a bad idea to try and slavishly copy a particular player just for the sake of it. I'd never try and copy Rafter's abbreviated service motion or Edberg's awkward continental forehand for example. But if a particular style appeals to you then there's nothing wrong with trying to emulate some of the best proponents of it. Everybody has influences on their formative development. Edberg was a massive influence on Federer playing the way he does, and it shows.
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That's a pretty idealistic way to view things. Everyone's personal style comes from somewhere else - whether it's from doing stuff the way your coach teaches you, trying to emulate a certain player or players, or a combination of both. I'm sure for most people it's a combination... I mean, you can't tell me as a kid that you didn't have favourite players and wanted to play like them.

I started playing at a similar age in the early-to-mid 90s. My heroes were Edberg, Woodbridge, and later Rafter. I always wanted to play like them and I took elements from all their games to try and build mine. I wasn't an especially tall guy so I copied a lot of Woodbridge's 'flatball' style, particularly with his serve, to get power. I obviously drooled over Edberg's backhand and volleys, so tried to incorporate some of his mechanics into mine. Later, when I was getting better and developing a kick serve, Rafter's was the obvious model.

I think it's a bad idea to try and slavishly copy a particular player just for the sake of it. I'd never try and copy Rafter's abbreviated service motion or Edberg's awkward continental forehand for example. But if a particular style appeals to you then there's nothing wrong with trying to emulate some of the best proponents of it. Everybody has influences on their formative development. Edberg was a massive influence on Federer playing the way he does, and it shows.
Of course I did, Agassi was the player I looked up to most. I told my coach I wanted to play like him when I was younger, and if i remember his exact words he told me "tennis needs a new unique Jimmy, and not another clone of Andre Agassi". I remember it to this day, because he was right, and my game and Andree's are completely different.
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Old Sep 7th, 2011, 07:36 AM   #164
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Sounds like you probably ended up mostly playing like the other players your coach developed then. Personal style has to come from somewhere, and if the player doesn't choose it then they generally get whichever cookie-cutter model their coach prefers.

There are very few truly 'unique' players, and most of them are rubbish. Orthodoxy is a good thing, as long as you pick one that suits you.
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Sounds like you probably ended up mostly playing like the other players your coach developed then. Personal style has to come from somewhere, and if the player doesn't choose it then they generally get whichever cookie-cutter model their coach prefers.

There are very few truly 'unique' players, and most of them are rubbish. Orthodoxy is a good thing, as long as you pick one that suits you.
That's true. He has been coaching for about 20 years now, he has worked in developing some great Australian juniors such as Todd Reid (Todd now trains at Sydney University which I am at now). However that has been my coaches view for a very long time. I completely agree with you, especially the last part you mentioned.
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