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Old Jul 4th, 2010, 11:13 PM   #1
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Mariana Alves Umpiring the Women's Wimbledon Final.

In your face, haters. Just comes to show how good an umpire she actually is. That 2004 USO match is completely behind her.
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Old Jul 4th, 2010, 11:16 PM   #2
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Re: Mariana Alves Umpiring the Women's Wimbledon Final.

Is she the one that umped the Petrova/Azarenka match at Wimby, ’09, by chance? If not, who was it? Because it was the worst umpiring I’ve ever seen.
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Old Jul 4th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #3
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Re: Mariana Alves Umpiring the Women's Wimbledon Final.

Is this some kind of misplaced, nationalistic, in-your-face thread?
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Re: Mariana Alves Umpiring the Women's Wimbledon Final.

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In your face, haters. Just comes to show how good an umpire she actually is. That 2004 USO match is completely behind her.
Even in 2010 she is completly messing scores in games, i can even remmember having ATP players all against her umpiring-messing job in Miami.

Not yesterday in the final thought and pretty much beacause that in less than a hour, her chances of failure are less.
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Re: Mariana Alves Umpiring the Women's Wimbledon Final.

who HATES on a chair umpire that COMPLETELY MESSED UP and is the reason for REPLAY now? Definitely was not HATING it was disappointment in a Professional that was not Professional at all. Everyone Remembers the match and I can't think of anyone that would have something positive to say about her mistakes #imjustsaying. Yeah it may be behind her but it happened...hell!
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Re: Mariana Alves Umpiring the Women's Wimbledon Final.

This is going to be one hell of a thread
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Re: Mariana Alves Umpiring the Women's Wimbledon Final.

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Is she the one that umped the Petrova/Azarenka match at Wimby, ’09, by chance? If not, who was it? Because it was the worst umpiring I’ve ever seen.
Here is Alves

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Chair umpire Mariana Alves thrust herself into a firestorm of controversy after an errant call during Jennifer Capriati's victory over Serena Williams.
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Love that bitch so much!!! I really do!
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NEW YORK - U.S. Open organizers have apologized to Serena Williams for a controversial line call in her quarterfinal loss to Jennifer Capriati on Tuesday.

Williams hit a backhand well inside the sideline at deuce in the opening game of the third set that was called good by the lineswoman but overruled by umpire Mariana Alves.

The third seed, who lost the match 2-6, 6-4, 6-4, initially thought Alves had simply called the score wrongly, but the Portuguese confirmed to USTA officials that she had overruled.



“I called Serena,” said Arlen Kantarian, the Chief Executive of Professional Tennis. “I apologized for the call, the overrule — which was a clear mistake — and told her how important she was to the U.S. Open, how she was a class act and how well she handled the situation last night.

“She was very appreciative of the call.”
U.S. Open Tournament Director Jim Curley confirmed an earlier statement by the USTA that Alves would not officiate in any further matches at the tournament.
“It was a mistake but she is a very experienced umpire and mistakes get made out there,” said Curley.

“She (Alves) was under consideration for another match, a women’s match, but we decided that it was in the best interests of the tournament (that she stand down),” he said.
The furor over the overrule and other linecalls that went against Williams in the match has renewed calls for technology to be used to assist the umpires in close decisions.


“The USTA, WTA, ITF and ATP have been exploring new technology for 20 years,” Kantarian said.
“We actually tested some technology, called Auto-Ref, in the qualifying tournament, so we are definitely looking into it.”
“I guess she went temporarily insane,” Williams said after the match.

No one would say whether Alves — seated on the opposite side of the court from where Williams’ ball landed — had been flat-out fired. Either way, she’s gone — too late to help Williams.

“I’d prefer she not umpire at my court anymore,” Williams said. “She’s obviously anti-Serena.”
The eighth-seeded Capriati will next play No. 6 Elena Dementieva, who defeated No. 2 Amelie Mauresmo 4-6, 6-4, 7-6 (1).
Only last week, Capriati called for tennis to try some sort of instant replay.





John Sommers / REUTERS


Chair umpire Mariana Alves thrust herself into a firestorm of controversy after an errant call during Jennifer Capriati's victory over Serena Williams.
“I don’t need to see the replay,” Williams said. “I know my shots. Not only was it in, it wasn’t even near the line.”

“I’m very angry and bitter right now. I felt cheated. Shall I go on? I just feel robbed,” she said, managing to laugh. “At first, I thought it was another Wimbledon conspiracy.”

Sister Venus lost in the second round this summer at Wimbledon after Karolina Sprem was mistakenly awarded an extra point in the final-set tiebreaker. Venus did not contest the call, and chair umpire Ted Watts was tossed out of the tournament.

Serena made a point to say she does not argue calls. Only this time, she did — for good reason, it turned out.
Williams hit a backhand that landed in along the side line, but Alves took it away, and Capriati went on to win the key first game.

TV replays showed the line judge had called it correctly. But as Williams headed back to the baseline to serve, she heard Alves announce: “Advantage, Capriati.”

A startled Williams looked up and asked, “What happened?” Then she said to Alves: “That’s my point. That ball was in. It’s my advantage.”

Williams looked up at her family in the guest box, turned around and headed toward Alves.
“No, no, no, no, no,” Williams said. “That was my point! What are you talking about? What’s going on? Excuse me? That ball was so in. What the heck is this?”

Williams tried to illustrate her point, putting a ball on the court and pointing.
“The ball landed here. That ball was not out. Are you kidding me? I’m trying to tell you: The ball was not out. Do I need to speak another language?”


Answered Alves: “Please calm down.”
Capriati stood at the other end, shaking her head.

“I didn’t even, like, look at it. It was close. I was just going to do what the umpire said,” Capriati told the crowd after the match, drawing some boos and murmurs.

“Believe me, I’ve had things go against me many times, plenty of times. I deserve to get a call once in a while. One point, I don’t think, changed the match.”

Said Williams: “Honestly, I began to think, ‘OK, well, I’m not going to go for the lines, I’m not going to go for my shots.”
Later in the final set, replays showed at least two other incorrect calls that went against Williams.

Capriati beat Williams in the French Open and lost to her at Wimbledon. Capriati has never reached the final at Flushing Meadows — last year, she was two points from making it that far 10 times when she lost to eventual champion Justine Henin-Hardenne in the semis.

In the last set against Williams, Capriati thought about that near-miss.
“There were actually a couple times there where that went through my mind. I was like, ‘I’m not going to let this happen again,”’ she said. “I think it was a good thing to think about it.”

Capriati has won three Grand Slam events and Williams has taken six. For the first time since 1998, Venus and Serena will finish the season without a single major title between them.

“You get second chance after chance after chance,” Capriati said. “I don’t care what the tennis looks like, as long as it’s gutsy.”

source: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/5933547/
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Here is Alves

Can’t remember if it was her. Which ever ump it was, must have been in a coma, because Azarenka was easily doing enough to be disqualified, yet the ump said and did precisely nothing.
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It was Asderaki in Azarenka's case I think.
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i think the umpires do a great job
considering they have no powers
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In your face, haters. Just comes to show how good an umpire she actually is. That 2004 USO match is completely behind her.
That 2004 USO match is completely behind her my ass! You wish. When you google her name, the first thing it says about her is how horrendous she was at that 2004 USO. It's a disgrace she still has a job.
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i think the umpires do a great job
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If you are capable of changing a ball clearly in and suggest it was out... thats no power?
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That 2004 USO match is completely behind her my ass! You wish. When you google her name, the first thing it says about her is how horrendous she was at that 2004 USO. It's a disgrace she still has a job.
You are correct, she is forever associated with this incident.

I don't the thread author took that into consideration, blinded by his/her nationalistic fervor to find Alves on a big stage again.
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