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Old Jan 30th, 2012, 09:59 PM   #1876
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Old Jan 30th, 2012, 11:17 PM   #1877
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Old Jan 30th, 2012, 11:30 PM   #1878
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Oki, I just wrote to them by the contact form on steffi-graf.net. Let's see what they will say about it.

Thanks again Bia!

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Old Jan 31st, 2012, 02:39 AM   #1879
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I can see it's as known as to say that Columbus discovered America, but I'm rewatching every women's tennis match on the net chronologically, and I got to 1992, so I recently saw Steffi's wins over Gabriela Sabatini and Mónica Seles at Wimbledon that year: MY GOD, what a player! After struggling against de Swardt (a tough player for her as everybody knows, even if there is such a HUGE difference in their historical status), and Fendick, Graf come out in a vicious level for those late rounds. I've probably never seen anybody play like THAT and against so talented rivals!
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Old Jan 31st, 2012, 04:35 AM   #1880
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The 92 Wimbledon final alone should lay waste to those dopes who claim Seles was the most dominant player ever. Imagine Graf or Navratilova at the heights of their dominance ever getting humiliated in a slam final like that, let alone the biggest tournament in the World.
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Old Jan 31st, 2012, 10:22 AM   #1881
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Oki, I just wrote to them by the contact form on steffi-graf.net. Let's see what they will say about it.

Thanks again Bia!

And for me it's bedtime now. Good night!
Thank you very much, Selecao.
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Old Jan 31st, 2012, 10:25 AM   #1882
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The 92 Wimbledon final alone should lay waste to those dopes who claim Seles was the most dominant player ever. Imagine Graf or Navratilova at the heights of their dominance ever getting humiliated in a slam final like that, let alone the biggest tournament in the World.
And some Seles fans still claim she lost that final because she couldn't grunt!!!
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Old Jan 31st, 2012, 05:20 PM   #1883
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And some Seles fans still claim she lost that final because she couldn't grunt!!!
The problem is even Monica Seles thinks so, she did give multiple interviews where she said she wished she played the wimby final again.
I have heard lot of discussions on this forum and many others on how Steffi is a poor loser as she did not shake hands in a 'well mannered' fashion after a loss but I will tell you one think, all these years that I have known her, she never once said she wished she played a match that she lost again, never has she talked about any of her losses in that manner and I think that is the highest form of regard you give to your opponent, acknowledging no matter how well or bad you played, your opponent's play had a say in the outcome of the result. Not once have I seen Steffi give an interview saying she wished she played the 92 FO final again without any grunting involved.
Steffi's atheleticism in the 92 Wimby final was great, just have to see how she retrieves the lob by Monica and I don't think even Monica Seles can say that 'grunting' would have prevented Steffi from reaching that ball and returning it so well.
Here is the point I am talking about and there are so many such points that day that had nothing to do with Monica not 'grunting' that day.

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Old Jan 31st, 2012, 10:02 PM   #1884
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Yes, I know ... I posted it before and it's off-topic actually ... but in the light of the current weather I cannot resist, sorry ...





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Oki, I just wrote to them by the contact form on steffi-graf.net. Let's see what they will say about it.

Thanks again Bia!
No reply yet. But I will let you know what they say IF they reply.
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Old Feb 1st, 2012, 02:31 AM   #1885
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Yes, I know ... I posted it before and it's off-topic actually ... but in the light of the current weather I cannot resist, sorry ...







No reply yet. But I will let you know what they say IF they reply.
Nice timing, thought you were referring me to an 'angry BBQ'
By the way, did contact Steffi's site admin in the past as this has been going on for sometime now, said he did fix it but seems to be a recurring problem and had to do something with the software as some other sites maintained by the same admin had similar issues as well and has to do with google search machine only. I got a response the first time I brought this issue up but nothing when I mentioned it again.
To avoid trigerring the message, try opening through FB page (through Steffi's FB page).
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Old Feb 1st, 2012, 12:53 PM   #1886
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LOL at the BBQ.


About the 1992 Wimbledon Finals, besides the fact that Seles get destroyed. By saying she would have like to play this match again, she was trying to make us (and her fans) believe that she sacrified a Wimbledon so ? Because if she had grunt what would have happened to her actually ? Nothing.
So even after a set for ex, she kept on not grunting,even while realizing her game was (according to her) so not at her best level, while she was playing the final of the biggest tournament of her sport ?
Yeah I so believe in that story.
And I still don't get why she had to shut up that day, and who complained about it, but I know I hate this grunt trend, look what it has become today. They should have done something 20years ago, now it's too late, and soooo annoying.
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Old Feb 1st, 2012, 05:27 PM   #1887
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[And I still don't get why she had to shut up that day, and who complained about it, but I know I hate this grunt trend, look what it has become today. They should have done something 20years ago, now it's too late, and soooo annoying.[/quote]

As per tennis rules, 'grunting' is considered a hindrance if a player reports against it and the authorities have to take action if that happens. That is what happened in Wimbledon 92, Martina and Tauziat complained against her grunting and Seles was asked to tone down her grunting in the susequent match which is a final.
If anything, Seles stabbing prevented people from talking against her grunting later on and as a result, it has evolved into shreiking (my opinion).
I have my own opinios about what happened in 92-93 but since this is Steffi's site, just wanted to limit it to something concerned to her.
Recently, I had the opportunity to go over Seles' book and to say, that my opinion of her changed drastically is an understatement. Lot of discrepancies of what actually happened and what is written in the book. In the book, she mentions that Steffi visited her in the hospital, said nothing and left within minutes saying she had to play the next match. Well, this is the same Monica Seles who gave multiple interviews (including TV interviews) immediately after the stabbing stating that Steffi did visit her, it was highly emotional for both of them and they both just cried. Nothing of that in the book.
Also, only top 17 of the top 25 players voted against the protective ranking. Well, I just have to beleive she had selective 'amnesia' of what actually happened around that time.

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Old Feb 1st, 2012, 07:27 PM   #1888
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First of all, thanks a lot, Selecao and Stef-fan for your help. And, Selecao, I have the snow too here, but no angry BBQ.
Stef-fan, I have exactly the same feelings about Seles. I did't read her book, actually, her two books, but I've read articles when it came out and she also said that Steffi went to visit her in hospital on sunday and that she told her she was in a hurry because she had to play the final. Well, I remember very well that Steffi went to see her the morning right after the stabbing, and it was on a friday, not the day of the final or semifinals. I'm not even sure Steffi had to play that day! It could be that Monica didn't remember it so well, but she could have done a small research before writing it. It seems that Seles self describes their meeting in a different way on her first book. Tarabini, who was with Steffi that morning at the hospital, said that Steffi even wanted to talk with doctors about Seles conditions. What I find more irritating, is the fact that not one tennis reporter contradicted Seles version of the story, they all seem to soffer the same amnesia.
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Old Feb 1st, 2012, 09:29 PM   #1889
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Nice timing, thought you were referring me to an 'angry BBQ'
?? ... *scratching head* ... Sorry, but I don't get that.


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By the way, did contact Steffi's site admin in the past as this has been going on for sometime now, said he did fix it but seems to be a recurring problem and had to do something with the software as some other sites maintained by the same admin had similar issues as well and has to do with google search machine only. I got a response the first time I brought this issue up but nothing when I mentioned it again.
Ah, I see, thanks a lot for that info! So I guess that I don't need to wait for a reply any longer because there won't be some.
It indeed looks like that Google uses some heuristic anti-malware scanner which flags some script(s) on the site as malicious. Probably nothing to worry about, but the webmaster should resolve this though since this isn't good for the reputation of the site.


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To avoid trigerring the message, try opening through FB page (through Steffi's FB page).
Or simply by typing the URL in the respective field of the browser (and thus accessing the site directly), that should work too.
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Old Feb 1st, 2012, 09:34 PM   #1890
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LOL at the BBQ.


About the 1992 Wimbledon Finals, besides the fact that Seles get destroyed. By saying she would have like to play this match again, she was trying to make us (and her fans) believe that she sacrified a Wimbledon so ? Because if she had grunt what would have happened to her actually ? Nothing.
So even after a set for ex, she kept on not grunting,even while realizing her game was (according to her) so not at her best level, while she was playing the final of the biggest tournament of her sport ?
Yeah I so believe in that story.
And I still don't get why she had to shut up that day, and who complained about it, but I know I hate this grunt trend, look what it has become today. They should have done something 20years ago, now it's too late, and soooo annoying.
My sentiments exactly!!!
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