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Old Oct 15th, 2012, 06:34 AM   #91
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Re: Rules thread - 2012

I'm on the winter break already (skipping the last week) so here are some more observations

I see a problem in 50% per round idea in that the people who end up with 0 after round one (while others get 10, 12 or 14, for example) due to not reaching 50% will get disscouraged and give up right away, and I also think there might be quite a few people with 0 in some tournaments. Thus I would suggest that we make it 33% for R1 and 50% for all the other rounds. So in a typical IS you would need the following number of points per round: 5, 8, 6 4 5 (I added the finals even though it goes without saying that if you miss the final pick you don't get points anyway). This way, you would have to earn a minimum of 23 points before the final, out of 52 possible, which is not too demanding while still somewhat separating players - certainly more so than now.
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Old Oct 28th, 2012, 01:22 PM   #92
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Re: Rules thread - 2012

I want to ask what's the point distribution for a RR match correct in Sofia, and for SF and F??

Also, do we need to still need to pick set ratio like in YEC??
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Old Oct 28th, 2012, 01:44 PM   #93
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Re: Rules thread - 2012

I'd say 6,7,8 for RR, SF and F... + 1 point for the SR.

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Old Oct 28th, 2012, 01:48 PM   #94
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I'd say 6,7,8 for RR, SF and F... + 1 point for the SR.

Let's see what ma re thinks.
Also, is there point for nothing correct. I mean both set ratio and winners. I remeber there is 2 point for each SR last year as well...
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Old Oct 28th, 2012, 01:51 PM   #95
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Re: Rules thread - 2012

And did I miss something? Only 8 players qualify this year??
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Also, is there point for nothing correct. I mean both set ratio and winners. I remeber there is 2 point for each SR last year as well...
I'd say no.

That rule was probably made because the tournament only had 7 matches and no RR stage like this year.
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And did I miss something? Only 8 players qualify this year??
It's because we only played 8 International tournaments this year (compared to 10 last year).
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Old Oct 28th, 2012, 05:23 PM   #98
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Re: Rules thread - 2012

To keep points as close as possible to those that could've been won in the same tournament last year I'd suggest

5 per correct pick in round robin (+1 for every correct set ratio)
6 per correct pick in the semis (also +1 for every SR)
7 for the correct final pick (also +1 for the set ratio).

Bonus points the same as last year: 140/100/70/50.

No points for wrong picks. Last year there were just 7 matches so we had that, no need for it this time (back then it was 10-7-5 / 12-10-7 / 15-12-10; depending on correct picks and set ratios).


Of course, it's really not that big of a deal even if we do it a little differently than what I suggested, the world will not fall apart
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Re: Rules thread - 2012

And again, I encountered serious problems in doubles YEC. All people picked the wrong winner and thus seven people get nine marks in SF, which is the same, how to determine a winner??

(Maybe it's my fault not to include set ratio since SF)
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Old Oct 29th, 2012, 10:06 AM   #100
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And again, I encountered serious problems in doubles YEC. All people picked the wrong winner and thus seven people get nine marks in SF, which is the same, how to determine a winner??

(Maybe it's my fault not to include set ratio since SF)
You might want to check who got more points in the semis and earlier rounds. I don't see another way.
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Re: Rules thread - 2012

But they seven of the top players picked one match correct only in SF, resulting that they all have nine points in SF...
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But they seven of the top players picked one match correct only in SF, resulting that they all have nine points in SF...
Work backwards from the semifinals - who got more points in the round before the semis.
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Re: Rules thread - 2012

No, we just start in SF in doubles
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Tie-breakers

1. The player who guessed the winner.
2. The player who is closest in games guessed.
3. The player who posted the fastest in the final.

4. If no one posted in the final, points from previous rounds are examined going backwards, until a clear advantage of one player is confirmed.
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No, we just start in SF in doubles
Right. Forgot about that.

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Tie-breakers

1. The player who guessed the winner.
2. The player who is closest in games guessed.
3. The player who posted the fastest in the final.

4. If no one posted in the final, points from previous rounds are examined going backwards, until a clear advantage of one player is confirmed.
As Fred points out, if no one guessed the winner, you still count who was closer in games even if no one guessed the winner. If that doesn't settle it, then you check who was faster to send a pick.
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