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Old Feb 1st, 2010, 02:04 PM   #16
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Re: 2010 Dual Match Line-Ups

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Impressive frosh Kristina Smith buried at 6 behind Becca Kwan at 5 who is incredibly inconsistent.

In fact mr. Gouci's latest target from LB, Julie Luzar, beat Kwan at BW Tourney or UCI might have finally won one.

Why does UCI not play Smith higher while than Kwan? Seeking a free point at 6?

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Old Feb 1st, 2010, 05:08 PM   #17
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Impressive frosh Kristina Smith buried at 6 but constant loser Becca Kwan at 5.
Form you have a selective memory which seems to skew your recollection of things.

Ex. You remember Kwan losing to 2 star Kelsey Costales (who's now a 4 star) in a tournament and so you think of her as a constant loser. Well that loss happened at the Summer Circuit which doesn't count for anything! You can't even find that loss on Kwan's college record.

But Kwan's college record shows she's not a constant loser. Here are Kwan's big wins from last season.

UCI def. #51 FIU = Kwan def. Jones in 3
UCI def. #71 Cal Poly = Kwan def. Filip in 2
UCI def. #35 Sac. St. = Kwan def. Valenzuela in 3
UCI def. #59 St. Mary's = Kwan def. Calvo in 3
UCI vs #44 LBS Rd. 1 = Kwan def. Luzar in 3
UCI def. Nevada = Kwan def. Lombard in 2
UCI def. UCSB BWT = Kwan def. Onaga in 2

By my count Kwan pulled her weight in 6 of UCI's biggest wins last season.
Now why don't you list Luzar's big wins if she even has any outside of the Big West Tournament?

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In fact mr. Gouci's latest target from LB, Julie Luzar, beat Kwan at BW Tourney or UCI might have finally won one.
Since you bring it up let me give you my thoughts on this.

During the BWT since Luzar was LBS's worst doubles player she got to sit out all the doubles matches and not as a strategy. When Kwan and Luzar round 2 took place Kwan was more fatigued with the additional 3 doubles matches she had to play that weekend in the grueling 107 degree desert heat.

And don't even imply skipping doubles has no advantage. Hammel lost to Grady in straight sets the 1st time they played. But in round 2 when Hammel rested for Grady by sitting out the doubles vs LBS, Hammel almost upset Grady in 3 sets.

So considering Kwan and Luzar had a close 3 set match in Round 1 the fatigue factor may have allowed Luzar to beat Kwan in the 2nd set tie-breaker of Round 2. In their 1st meeting Kwan won that 2nd set tie-breaker and went on to win the 3rd set. In the end Luzar may have lucked into her only big win of the season because she was just so bad in doubles.

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Re: 2010 Dual Match Line-Ups

Line-up rules at the Indoors.

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-up procedures listed below.  Firstthere should 
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-up ruleSome coaches still have not set their line-ups and would 
like to rotate some players
.  Secondcoaches should not be able to rotate their line-up simply 
to 
“match-up” better against an opponent.  A coach should be rotating players only if he/she 
feels they are of equal ability and both deserve to play a certain position.  Thirdsince this is a 
National Championship tournament
the seeding and line-up rules should resemble a 
tournament of that caliber 
as closely as possible
 
Keeping these three principles in mindthe line-up rules are as follows
 
1. Master line-ups must be submitted on the ITA website no later than MondayFebruary 8th at 12 
Noon 
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http://www.itatennis.com/Events/ITANationalChampionships/DIWomensTeamIndoors.htm. 
2. Line-ups will be compiled and emailed to the 16 participating coaches at approximately 1pm on 
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due to injury
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master line
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order in relationship to the original master line
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is held out of play, and everyone moves upthe line-up would be considered the master 
line
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or #6 player on your team. If you decide to rotate that position, and the opposing coach 
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Syracuse def. Rutgers 7-0

1. Harman def. Zhang 6-2, 6-2
2. Parra def. Holzberg 6-1, 3-6, 6-2
3. Tan def. Arlak 6-1, 2-6, 10-2
4. Peters def. Mulchutsky 6-2, 6-1
5. #102 Kalhorn def. Michelle Green 6-2, 6-2
6. #74 Sardinha def. Slatnick 6-1, 6-1

For the 3rd straight match blue chippers Elenor Peters and #74 C.C. Sardinha have played #4 & #6 singles for Syracuse.
If Sardinha is really their #6 singles then Syracuse is a contender for the national title this year.

This shadiness coming from a coaching staff that likes to squat their school name on neglected top player profiles at TRN.
Gouci....You are right about this Syracuse program. They are the biggest joke when it comes to stacking the lineup. They played Eastern Michigan today and beat them 4-3. The coach for Eastern Michigan is filing a formal complaint protesting the match on Syracuse putting the best players at the bottom half of the lineup. For Syracuse, The top three players lost and bottom three won. Is Luke Jensen going to get called on the carpet for this? He should be! I guess it got real ugly!
http://www.emueagles.com/news/2010/2...205103721.aspx
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If Sardinha is really their #6 singles then Syracuse is a contender for the national title this year.
Sounds fishy to me.



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Old Feb 7th, 2010, 08:32 AM   #23
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This was quoted on zootennis:

“You’re supposed to place your players according to skill level with one being your highest ranked and six being your lowest ranked,” Ray explained. “They had their best player in the five position. This player had beaten two ranked opponents in the fall and established a national ranking for herself. She was not their fifth-best player.

Ray said he plans to appeal the decision and if overturned, the Eagles would claim a victory in the match.

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Oklahoma

Oklahoma upsets #30 Alabama 4-3

Doubles
1. McLane/Guarachi (BAMA) def. #39 Constantinescu/Tsertsvadze (OU), 8-3
2. Eckel/Kalashnikova (OU) def. Bigos/Foehse (BAMA), 8-1
3. Connelly/Huet (OU) def. Tunaru/Emery (BAMA), 8-3
Order of Finish: 2, 3, 1

Singles
1. Courtney McLane (BAMA) def. #56 Ana-Maria Constantinescu (OU), 6-3, 7-6(6)
2. #82 Alexa Guarachi (BAMA) def. Marie-Pier Huet (OU), 6-4, 6-2
3. Maria Kalashnikova (OU) def. Paulina Bigos (BAMA), 4-6, 6-1, 6-3
4. Meritt Emery (BAMA) def. Teona Tsertsvadze (OU), 6-2, 7-5
5. Kristina Radan (OU) def. Antonio Foehse (BAMA), 6-4, 7-5
6. Tara Eckel (OU) def. Alice Tunaru (BAMA), 6-4, 6-4
Order of Finish: 2, 4, 1, 6, 5, 3

Huet played mostly #4-6 singles last season but was planted at #2.

Kalashnikova played mostly at #2 singles last season but was planted at #3.

For some reason Alabama's junior Tiffany Welcher (#1 last year) and sophomore Taylor Lindsey (#5 last year) have been missing from the line-up.

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'Almost' on the questionable line up list is UCLA women. They had an illegal multi-spot jump vs Tulsa when they dropped Johannson from 4 to 6 in just one match. You can't do that

After charting their first four matches, they are actually 'barely' legal except for that move.

After first two matches they had established the following order when adjusted for legal substitionss:
1) Schnack, 2) Remynse, 3) Hickey, 4) Johansson, 5) Hoffpauir, 6) Pantic, 7) Seguso, 8) Montez

Then they jumped Johansson behind (missing Hoffpauir) both Seguso and Pantic... you can't do that... match # 3

Now UCLA appears to be given their subsitution pattern from match to match:
1) Schnack, 2) Remynse, 3) Hickey, 4) Hoffpauir, 5) Pantic, 6) Seguso, 7) Johansson, 8) Montez
UCLA is sneaky because they have so many players that can actually compete at Division I, they are able to flip flop and disorient coaches from catching on. They were on my radar earlier but I'm glad someone actually figured them out
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Re: 2010 Dual Match Line-Ups

Although "legal" UCLA moves Remynse to No. 3 and Hickey to No. 2 against Cal despite both losing to Miami. Looks like a defensive move from UCLA to guarantee a split at No. 2/3 as opposed to taking a chance at a split or even a 0-2 hole.

UCLA knows that the match is going to be won at the bottom of the line-up.
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and actually Hickey won and Remynse lost, it's a bit hilarious
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Long Beach State watch

Below is the record for Anais Dallara since 2/1/09 playing behind Deborah "sacrificial lamb" Armstrong but NEVER moving up even 1 spot higher.

"Sacrificial Lamb's" record = 13-11 (2 DNF)
46% losing percentage


Anais Dallara's record = 24-1 (1 DNF)
96% winning percentage



Spring 2010 examples

1. Trunk (San Diego St.) def. Armstrong 6-1,6-0
2. Dallara (LBS) def. Julia Wais (SDSU) 6-4,6-3

1. Jacqui Corba (George Washington) def. Armstrong 6-1,6-4
2. Dallara (LBS) def. Mimi Hamling (GW) 6-0,6-0

1. Sanchez (USC) def. Armstrong 6-2,6-2
2. Dallara (LBS) def. Sarah Fansler (USC) 6-2,6-2



Who else thinks this is a blatant violation of the "players must compete in order of ability" rule?

If losing 1-6,0-6 doesn't bump the sacrificial lamb down then maybe a formal protest will?

UC Riverside the next LBS opponent has nothing to lose and should protest the match if Dallara plays behind the sacrificial lamb yet again.
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and actually Hickey won and Remynse lost, it's a bit hilarious
Haha I did not see that coming at all. Cal only won because they pulled of the doubles point. They led something like 7-4 at No. 2 doubles and went down 7-8 before winning it in the tie breaker. That would have been the difference.
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yeah I also didn't see Cal winning the dbles pt, either, #2 weren't that good so far..
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