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Old Dec 23rd, 2009, 10:10 PM   #1
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USC's outlook this season;

just for fun I'm posting USC outlook I wrote some time ago;

Obviously USC suffered the most loss this season.

The most glaring 'vacuum' is in doubles. We no longer have a sure-fire winning top level doubles team. Both Fink and Niculescu is no longer with the team.
On the other hand, others teams in the PAC-10 has at least 1 team;

Cal; Andersson/Juricova
UCLA; Remynse/Schnack
STAN; Barte/Burdette
WASH; Ardies/Dy
ASU; Hein/McKenna (in the SW Regional they split this team)
UA; Marks/Rietsch

Last year USC's double squad was;

Fink/Niculescu
Sanchez/Ramos
Fansler/Kinstler

This lineup was super-crucial to USC's success in taking the PAC-10 champ.
(S/R & F/K did a terrific job against UCLA, and Andrew substituted Sanchez beautifully against Stanford).

Now I see that they're trying a different line-up;

Pulido/Sanchez was tested both in WAATC & SW Regional (so I guess it stays on?) They lost to Ardies/Dy at WAATC.

Fansler/Kinstler(the same) in WAATC

In SW Regional;

Lao/Kinstler; lost to PEP
Andrews/Entekhabi lost in the MD but claimed consolation champ
P/S lost to Brown/Hein(ASU) in a heartbreaker. (MP !_!)

Not a bad outcome, I guess.
And this area certainly has a lot of room for improvement.

In singles USC also did pretty well.

Ramos, Entekhabi, Andrews, Kinstler all had solid results at Summer Collegiate Circuit. (although Ramos did lose to Montez at SBTC)
Ramos and Lao were REALLY good at WAATC
Sanchez, Lao, Ramos were in elite 8 in SW Regional, Sanchez winning 2 yrs in a row.
Andrews & Kinstler reached consolation final 4. (Andrews lost to Hoffpauir)
Too bad there was no upset in Entekhabi ; Remynse & Ramos ; Schnack, but that's that.

Sanchez would be no. 1
and who will be no. 2 & 3? Fansler? Ramos? Lao?
I think Fansler should be no. 3, as in the UCLA match.

no. 3 of the rivals;

CAL; Andersson
STAN; dunno(Nguyen graduate), maybe M. Burdette?
UCLA; Johansson
WASH; Ardies
ASU; Hein (but where is Abdala?)

Yes, I think Fansler should definitely play no. 3.

Now no. 2 of the rivals;

CAL; Cossou (perennial elite 8 in EVERY kind of tourney, the MOST consistent Junior in the NATION, defeated Boonstra at WAATC)

STAN; Burdette (harassed Cossou at the last duals match last year). but dunno, her little sister might take it, who had a monster performance in NW R, beating AP & Cossou)

UCLA; Remynse (defeated Secerbegovic - who was really good at WAATC & Texas regional finalist - bagelled by Will at the WAATC, but rebounded by bageling McKenna at SW R)

WASH;Dy - defeated Barte & Juricova to claim NW R champ. -.-;;;;;

ASU; Abdala or Hein. Hein had an impressive performance at SW R, defeating Coupez and harassing Marks at Q.

UA; Landsman. REALLY harassed Schnack at SW R.

No easy opponent in this slot. Dunno, either Ramos or Lao will be fine, I guess.

But I think USC's real strength lies in 4~6 position.

Ramos & Lao surely would dominate in no. 4 (no. 4 was always one of the most solid positions. Matias, Niculescu..)
Pulido defeated McKenna at Cal Invite
Entekhabi won the Ventura CC, defeated Masschelein(UA)
Andrews harassed Ramos at 2 summer circuits & defeated Pantic at the Riviera Circuit.
Kinstler harassed Walters, defeated Simmons(ASU) at SW R.

So USC needs to maximize in these lower positions, and if they can win one or two in the no. 1~3 slot, they can win the duals match.

It will be interesting how the team progress during the Indoors in February and duals seasons.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2009, 10:11 PM   #2
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Re: Pac-10

Pac 10 brief outlook I also wrote some time ago;

Pac-10 is pretty competitive. USC, ASU each lost to UW, UCLA in a heartbreaker, 3-4 in the 2nd round of NCAA.

1.USC Sanchez, Fansler, Ramos

Out; #2 Fink, #4 Niculescu
In; Pulido, Lao

The loss is huge, no doubt (Fink/Niculescu was also Pac-10 doubles champ),
but Ramos and Lao did really well at the WAATC. Pulido defeated McKenna &
Widjaja at the Cal invite.
And USC's Junior lineup is one of the nation's best;
Sanchez, Entekhabi, Kinstler, Andrews.

2. CALIFORNIA Juricova, Cossou, Andersson

Out; #4 Ilcinkas, #5 Bobusic, #7 Ravelojaona
In; Siwosz(Baylor #6), Goransson, Radeva, Davis

The de facto no. 1 team of last year (Juricova didn't play in doubles, Cossou in singles at the duals match against USC), and NCAA runner-up 2yrs in a row.
Also sustained huge loss, but the newcomers are interesting. Anyway the core
1~3 lineup is one of the best in the nation, and neither ones are senior..

3. STANFORD Barte, Burdette, McVeigh

Out; #3 Nguyen
In; Burdette, Tan

Nguyen was a really good player. But newcomers can only be a plus, I guess.
McVeigh defeated Scharle at WAATC.

4. UCLA Schnack, Remynse, Johansson

Out; #5 Joelson
In; Montez, Hoffpauir

Schnack started the season splendidly. Schnack/Remynse duo won the Cal Invite.
With Pantic, Seguso, Wetmore and top juniors Montez, Hoffpauir, still boasts strong depths.

5. ASU McKenna, Abdala, Hein, Brycki

Out; #4 Abdala

If Cako enrolled as promised this team could have been even better than last year..

6. WASHINGTON Chan, Dy, Ardies

No losses. Chan made a splendid comback at WAATC (The only player who gave the champion Falconi hard time). Dy/Ardies is one of the best doubles teams in the West. 2nd consecutive NCAA appearance is quite possible.

7. UA Marks, Landsman

Out; Steinberg
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Re: Pac-10

USC against PAC-10 rivals brief;

Against CAL;

#10 USC 4, #8 California 3

March 27, 2009 - Marks Stadium


DOUBLES


(1) #10 Fink/Niculescu (USC) def. Andersson/Bobusic (CAL) - 8-5

(2) #53 Fansler/Kinstler (USC) def. #9 Cossou/Ilcinkas (CAL) - 8-5

(3) Ramos/Sanchez (USC) def. Chang/Ravelojaona (CAL) - 8-0

USC wins doubles point.
Order of finish: 3, 1, 2


SINGLES


(1) #17 Jana Juricova (CAL) def. #13 Maria Sanchez (USC) - 4-1 ret. inj.

(2) #75 Mari Andersson (CAL) def. #25 Sarah Fansler (USC) - 4-6, 6-2, 7-5

(3) #26 Amanda Fink (USC) def. #38 Claire Ilcinkas (CAL) - 6-4, 6-4*

(4) #22 Bojana Bobusic (CAL) def. #58 Gabriela Niculescu (USC) - 6-4, 5-7, 1-0 (11-9)

(5) #62 Alison Ramos (USC) def. Marion Ravelojaona (CAL) - 6-2, 6-2

(6) Leyla Entekhabi (USC) def. Stephany Chang (CAL) - 6-1, 6-1

Order of finish: 1, 5, 6, 3*, 4, 2

You can see Cossou's absence in singles and Juricova's absence in doubles
affected the outcome.
Cal's no. 1~3 core lineup is still one of the nation's best, and doubles
Andersson/Juricova is last season's NCAA champ.
But I think USC can win no.3~6, since Ilcinkas, Bobusic is no more.
Their absence also affects doubles, so USC could win no. 2~3 positions.

Against STAN;

#10 USC 5, #11 Stanford 2

March 28, 2009 - Marks Stadium


DOUBLES


(1) #10 Fink/Niculescu (USC) def. #17 Barte/Burdette (STAN) - 8-6

(2) McVeigh/Nguyen (STAN) def. #53 Fansler/Kinstler (USC) - 8-3

(3) Andrews/Ramos (USC) def. Hansen/Li (STAN) - 8-4
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SC wins doubles point.
Order of finish: 2, 1, 3


SINGLES

(1) #14 Hilary Barte (STAN) def. #25 Sarah Fansler (USC) - 6-1, 6-4

(2) #26 Amanda Fink (USC) def. Lindsay Burdette (STAN) - 6-0, 6-3

(3) #98 Jessica Nguyen (STAN) def. #58 Gabriela Niculescu (USC) - 7-5, 6-2

(4) #62 Alison Ramos (USC) def. Veronica Li (STAN) - 6-4, 6-7 (5), 6-3*

(5) Leyla Entekhabi (USC) def. Carolyn McVeign (STAN) - 6-2, 6-4

(6) Lyndsay Kinstler (USC) def. Logan Hansen (STAN) - 3-6, 6-4, 7-5

Order of finish: 2, 5, 1, 3, 4*, 6

Nguyen out, Burdette, Tan in. It won't be as easy as last time. Just like
the last time, hope USC can sweep the lower positions.

Against UCLA;

Saturday (March 7).
No. 11 UCLA 4, No. 10 USC 3


DOUBLES


(1) #5 Remynse/Schnack (UCLA) def. #12 Fink/Niculescu (USC) - 9-8 (3)

(2) #76 Seguso/Stephanie Wetmore (UCLA) def. #62 Fansler/Kinstler (USC) - 8-2

(3) #71 Ramos/Sanchez (USC) def. Joelson/Pantic (UCLA) - 8-2

UCLA wins doubles point.
Order of finish: 2, 3, 1 


SINGLES


(1) #19 Yasmin Schnack (UCLA) def. #22 Sarah Fansler (USC) - 6-2-6-4

(2) #15 Maria Sanchez (USC) def. #27 Andrea Remynse (UCLA) - 6-4, 6-2

(3) #29 Amanda Fink (USC) def. #81 Maya Johansson (UCLA) - 6-2, 6-3

(4) #54 Gabriela Niculescu (USC) def. #112 Nina Pantic (UCLA) - 6-2, 6-3

(5) Ashley Joelson (UCLA) def. #61 Alison Ramos (USC) - 4-6, 7-6 (5), 6-4*

(6) Carling Seguso (UCLA) def. Leyla Entekhabi (USC) - 5-7, 6-2, 7-5

Order of finish: 1, 3, 4, 2, 6, 5*

#9 USC 5, #2 UCLA 2

April 17, 2009 -- Marks Stadium


DOUBLES


(1) #4 Remynse/Schnack (UCLA) def. #11 Fink/Niculescu (USC) - 8-4

(2) #65 Fansler/Kinstler (USC) def. #56 Seguso/Wetmore (UCLA) - 8-2

(3) Ramos/Sanchez (USC) def. Joelson/Pantic (UCLA) - 8-5 

USC wins doubles point.
Order of finish: 2, 1, 3


SINGLES


(1) #15 Yasmin Schnack (UCLA) def. #18 Maria Sanchez (USC) - 7-6 (2), 6-2

(2) #28 Amanda Fink (USC) def. #53 Andrea Remynse (UCLA) - 4-6, 7-5, (10-8)

(3) #34 Sarah Fansler (USC) def. #95 Maya Johansson (UCLA) - 6-0, 4-6, 6-4*

(4) #76 Gabriela Niculescu (USC) def. Nina Pantic (UCLA) - 6-3, 6-1

(5) Ashley Joelson (UCLA) def. #65 Alison Ramos (USC) - 6-3, 4-6, 6-2

(6) Leyla Entekhabi (USC) def. Carling Seguso (UCLA) - 6-3, 4-6, 6-0

Order of finish: 4, 1, 6, 3*, 5, 2

Fansler/Kinstler did a terrific job, and no. 2~4 were solid enough in both matches.
Joelson out, Montez, Hoffpauir in. Maybe Lao and Pulido can win against them. That leaves Remynse & Johansson. Should Sanchez play against Schnack or Remynse?

UW;
May 10
DOUBLES

(1) Sarah Fansler-Lyndsay Kinstler (USC) lost to Joyce Ardies-Denise Dy (UW), 1-8

(2) Alison Ramos-Maria Sanchez (USC) lost to Venise Chan-Aleksandra Malovic (UW), 4-8

(3) Cristala Andrews-Amanda Fink (USC) vs. Samantha Smith-Lina Xu (UW), 6-6, susp.
Order of Finish: 1,2

SINGLES

(1) Maria Sanchez (USC) lost to Venise Chan (UW), 4-6, 6-3, 6-7 (2-7) 

(2) Amanda Fink (USC) def. Denise Dy (UW), 2-6, 7-5, 6-3

(3) Sarah Fansler (USC) def. Lina Xu (UW), 6-4, 7-6 (9-7) 

(4) Alison Ramos (USC) lost to Samantha Smith (UW), 1-6, 2-6

(5) Leyla Entekhabi (USC) def. Joyce Ardies (UW), 6-4, 6-2

(6) Lyndsay Kinstler (USC) lost to Aleksandra Malovic (UW), 3-6, 4-6
Order of Finish: 4,5,6,3,2,1

What can I say? REVENGE. Yes, Chan did exceptionally well in WAATC & Dy won the NW Regional. Ardies/Dy is one of the best doubles team in the West. And, they have no losses.
I want Sanchez vs Chan rematch. Actually I want every positions having rematch.

That means;

Sanchez vs Chan
Lao or Pulido vs Dy
Fansler vs Xu
Ramos vs Smith
Entekhabi vs Ardies
Kinstler vs Malovic

I don't think ASU or UA will pose huge threat..hopefully.
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Pac 10 brief outlook I also wrote some time ago;
Some that were missed:


3. Stanford

Out = #6 Courtney Clayton


4. UCLA

Out = Stephanie Wetmore
In = Noelle Hickey (Georgia Tech #3)


5. Arizona St.

Out = #8 Ali Van Horn
In = Nicole Smith (ITF 127)

Smith should be a starter.
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Some that were missed:


3. Stanford

Out = #6 Courtney Clayton


4. UCLA

Out = Stephanie Wetmore
In = Noelle Hickey (Georgia Tech #3)


5. Arizona St.

Out = #8 Ali Van Horn
In = Nicole Smith (ITF 127)

Smith should be a starter.
I dunno how you get those infos
I saw Hickey at NCAA, so I guess I should watch Nicole Smith, I'm not sure I watched her at SW Regional...if I saw her, I wasn't much impressed, I guess.
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And ASU..McKenna, Abdala, Hein, Brycki and if Nicole Smith?(CAN) is that good..Brycki defeated Niculesu and Joelson last season..ok, ASU could be tough. After all, they could've gone to College Station, they were actually on the brink of winning the match against UCLA, just that Pantic went on a rampage at the last moment.
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... so I guess I should watch Nicole Smith, I'm not sure I watched her at SW Regional...if I saw her, I wasn't much impressed, I guess.
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Smith tore her ACL in her knee and had surgery in May. She is expected back by January.
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USC's outlook this season;


no. 3 of the rivals;

CAL; Andersson
STAN; dunno(Nguyen graduate), maybe M. Burdette?
UCLA; Johansson
WASH; Ardies
ASU; Hein (but where is Abdala?)

Yes, I think Fansler should definitely play no. 3.

Now no. 2 of the rivals;

CAL; Cossou (perennial elite 8 in EVERY kind of tourney, the MOST consistent Junior in the NATION, defeated Boonstra at WAATC)

STAN; Burdette (harassed Cossou at the last duals match last year). but dunno, her little sister might take it, who had a monster performance in NW R, beating AP & Cossou)

UCLA; Remynse (defeated Secerbegovic - who was really good at WAATC & Texas regional finalist - bagelled by Will at the WAATC, but rebounded by bageling McKenna at SW R)

WASH;Dy - defeated Barte & Juricova to claim NW R champ. -.-;;;;;

ASU; Abdala or Hein. Hein had an impressive performance at SW R, defeating Coupez and harassing Marks at Q.

UA; Landsman. REALLY harassed Schnack at SW R.
Now the reason why I recommended Fansler for no. 3 is her size. She's not necessarily that powerful, so playing against bigger players like Juricova, Schnack, Burdette sisters, Remynse, McKenna, Abdala, Cossou, Landsman could pose a problem.
Of course playing against Barte(though she is VERY powerful), Chan, Dy, Hein, Marks, Andersson(also kind of a hardpuncher) would be much better sizewise, so the singles positions can be flexible, I guess.

To think of it Fansler, Ramos, Lao are quite petit players..
And after Nelson, USC don't have power-players. I don't think Fink or Sanchez, Pulido, though they're big, are power players..they 'seem' to be more of a rallying type, depending upon precision more than sheer power stroke(I dunno but it 'seems' to me Sanchez's ball is quite heavy, but she's not a ball-bashing type, methinks)..Christian(very crafty) and De Simone(kind of a counterpuncher?) are no exceptions, Santamaria may be a hard-puncher..

So as a endorser? of variety, I recommend Krista Hardebeck for USC But of course, it's just my wishful thinking.. If pushing for finesse, Krawczyk would be an obvious choice, I guess, either of them would be 'my' choice,
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Smith tore her ACL in her knee and had surgery in May. She is expected back by January.
Can't wait to see her in action. Again thanks!
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But of course, it's just my wishful thinking.. If pushing for finesse, Krawczyk would be an obvious choice, I guess, either of them would be 'my' choice,
Based on Desirae Krawczyk's current ranking, she is outside the top 25, it's very unlikely she ends up at USC or UCLA. I'm guessing 2 years ahead but if Krawczyk stays in CA her most likely destination would probably be UCI or Pepperdine.
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Based on Desirae Krawczyk's current ranking, she is outside the top 25, it's very unlikely she ends up at USC or UCLA. I'm guessing 2 years ahead but if Krawczyk stays in CA her most likely destination would probably be UCI or Pepperdine.
but..she's a blue chip, that's important! And I prefer local recruits, so..I don't mind her going to UCI or Pepperdine either, anyway
(who am I to mind? )

Wonder what Dai, Kitagawa, Coy Jones Hunter(who are ahead of her in ranking) have in mind..
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of the recruiting style of the BIG 4;

I'm 'hazarding' a 'conjecture', no more;

USC

Happy? to say they're mainly local recruits.
Had some South African,Romanian connections such as Anastasiu, Vermeluen, Niculescu (Howard? Joffe)

UCLA

lots of Asians and hispanic?, Zalameda, Lin, Schnack, Montez, Hoffpauir?
has Florida? or GT? connections such as Johansson, Hickey, Seguso, Pantic..

Stanford

did everybody notice that their ace is asian 3 in a row?
Liu->Barte->Ahn
if you add also Tan, Li, Yen..
has Burdette connections, Erin, Lindsay, Mallory..

Cal

Dominantly foreign. Babos, Bobusic, Ilcinkas, Ravelojaona, Cossou, Andersson, Juricova, Goransson..
especially French and Swedish? Babos and Juricova are from eastern Europe..
I dunno who they're recruiting next year, no news at all, maybe also from foreign countries?
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Re: Pac-10

It'll be interesting to see if Cal changes their recruiting strategy in the present/future. It's safe to say they've always been the No. 4 popular place in the Pac-10 to be recruited, but having reached the NCAA finals they have finally become a more attractive place. With that being said more American players are interested (as noted by the number of interests in the junior and sophomore ranks).

Cal is going to have to start recruiting for their next No. 1 player. In a couple years they'll lose their core of Juricova, Cossou, and Andersson.
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It'll be interesting to see if Cal changes their recruiting strategy in the present/future. It's safe to say they've always been the No. 4 popular place in the Pac-10 to be recruited, but having reached the NCAA finals they have finally become a more attractive place. With that being said more American players are interested (as noted by the number of interests in the junior and sophomore ranks).

Cal is going to have to start recruiting for their next No. 1 player. In a couple years they'll lose their core of Juricova, Cossou, and Andersson.
Yes, advancing to the NCAA finals two years in a row is quite a feat Naturally it would help the recruiting process..

And that's why I'm curious about their recruiting for the current Juniors. Of the Californians Turewicz, Tsay, Olmos are the top rankers in the country, and Olmos also is really good (I saw her at Lakewood this July). Haven't seen Tsay (watched her play on You-Tube. weird serve motion ), but guess she's good too(but oops, she's not interested, according to TR)
Guillermo isn't a bad choice either.
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USC

Happy? to say they're mainly local recruits.
Had some South African,Romanian connections such as Anastasiu, Vermeluen, Niculescu (Howard? Joffe)

UCLA

lots of Asians and hispanic?, Zalameda, Lin, Schnack, Montez, Hoffpauir?
has Florida? or GT? connections such as Johansson, Hickey, Seguso, Pantic..

Stanford

did everybody notice that their ace is asian 3 in a row?
Liu->Barte->Ahn
if you add also Tan, Li, Yen..
has Burdette connections, Erin, Lindsay, Mallory..
Ethnicities among US recruits are probably just a coincidence. Recruiting has more to do with family history, friendships and chain migration more than ethnicities.

Ex. Family history
1. Lin went to UCLA more because her older brother Jason played on the UCLA men's team and not because she's asian.
2. Seguso went to UCLA more because her older brother Holden played on the UCLA men's team too, not because she was from Florida.
3. Burdette sisters connection obvious.
4. Both of Amber Liu's parents were Stanford grads.

Ex. Friendships
1. Ramos, Christian, Lao and Santa Maria all played on the same 2008 SoCal Fed Cup team.

Ex. Chain migration
1. Hickey may have followed Johansson to UCLA, both by way of Georgia Tech.
2. Pantic may have followed Wetmore who may have followed Christina Popescu to UCLA, all by way of Canada.
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